Evisma

If you knew someone in Hollywood, this could get onto an action movie soundtrack. Good vibe.
Mark.

Very cool track, the mix, the arrangement, production...all sounding great. I always like this style of rock, it's melodic and hard and thrashy at the same time. Enjoyed it very much. Great job on the bass track.

Wayne

Can you tell me what tempo this is at? I would love to make a drum track for this. I know I don't have anything in my loops or tracks that shows you but I am actually mainly a drummer and just make electronic music as a hobby.

Awesome GUITAR work here evisma.
I love the chords and the bass lines are sick.
Does sound slight akin to Tool, who are masters at this sort of stuff.
Ive only heard a few of your tracks but im already a fan.
Dying to hear more.

I really dig the track and my only "constructive criticism" would be to lose the chorus effect on the bass guitar and turn up the rythem guitar a bit. I think it would give it a little more punch and put some hair on its chest :) -peace

This is a great rock track in the Deep Purple school. The drums and mixing have been commented on extensively so I won't go there. Def, def would benefit from a vox, maybe put a post in the forum. If not there is a group on facebook called collab with me, that has a lot of talented people, many from this website. Great work here.

Hi dear Evan.
I enjoyed & liked this one.
I listened to that so many times.

TanX

I see that you are following MrNomad's comments, so you are in good hands
Anyhow,I will still add my two cents: intro is perfect.
The quick part does not sound as powerful as it should, but honestly I think it is a matter of mix: you have all the elements you need but the powerful ones are not loud enough.

Keep on the good work: we have some really interesting stuff here.
Ciao, Domenico

PS have you thought of a vocal part for this song?
Don't know why but I could imagine something like Marilyn Manson going on....

Reaqlly good track, a lot of really cool and interesting production tricks going on all lending to a very strong track but if I am to be 100% honest the drums disapear behind the bass when they come in and need to be much more in command than they are.

Great quality music mate....

This is very cool and creative! I love the change in the middle when the beat gets going! Bass and guitar are performed very well in my opinion! I kind of like the drums, but they could use some more power, maybe some multiband compression or something. Super awesome song! Faved for sure!

really marvelous ! i liked it very very much .

"I appreciate the input"

Oh no problem at all - as far as I'm concerned it's exactly what a site like this should be about rather than just the straight, brief backslapping that I see all too often, which doesn't actually help you make it any better, though can help a bit in making you feel a bit better about your music.

I always try to suggest improvements, as you'll see if you look at pretty much all of my comment bistory. If I can't think of anything, which is rare, I say exacly that in order to indicate just how good a track it is (as you pretty much did on my most recent upload). I generally get good appreciation of my suggestions though there are a couple of people on here who have given me quite unpleasant abuse for my comments (and I don't even write especially critical or negative ones - if I really don't like a track or think it's a no-hoper, I don't comment). One guy has about four times left quite specific and personal insults towards me and my comments on a number of other people's tracks. Weird troll behaviour I don't really understand but which has quite angered me.

Anyway, I shouldn't go on about this too much but will say that it's good if I'm helping you a bit and don't mind helping more in this very minor way. It's hard describing music and suggesting what someone should do, especially when you don't know them, but I think if you're just thoughtful and honest and know your music, you might hit upon something useful. And it's sort of a good exercise because you have to do exactly the same analysis with your own music (and then go a hell of a lot deeper).

"I live a wild life." Yes, I live a similarly wild one. I have a track called The Bigger The Fatter The Better, which I've just been working on. It's very powerful and heavy (but not in a death metal way) and it sounds like a pretty badass title. Well, it's not quite that badass as it comes from me asking my mother a few years ago what sort of pastry I should get her from the kitchen. The answer: "The bigger, the fatter, the better".

P.S. I did send you a PM containing details for sending me the Harry The Soapbar files for me to work on at least 10 days ago. I'm guessing you didn't get that message?

Just listening again and I'd now say that that intro is pretty much perfect. The 3 second reverse fade segues perfectly into that cool main riff.

Then on 0:20 we get the next riff plus the drum loop plus a few more things I can't be bothered to type out. Basically, things are arriving nicely in such a way that you can pick out each one. So it's also a good mix.

I think it builds very skilfully up to that main drum beat on 1:24.

The 1:24 to 1:45 sction is probably far too short - should be more like 40 seconds to a minute as you've already spent a while building it up so to then break it down again after only 20 or so seconds seems too premature and a bit of a killing of the energy you've built up.

As I said before, 1:54 to the end needs to be much longer and a return to some of the earlier intro elements (eg with new drums underneath them) would help lengthen what needs to be a longer piece. This isn't pop music so I don't think making it this brief length does it justice.

Cool - first time I've given some advice that I can then see has been taken. Yes, intro/start much much better now and more recognisable. Gets in to the good stuff much quicker. Then it really gets going on about 1:25, as before (I think was 2:22 on the previous version). Mix also sounds better.

The main thing now is to work out how to make it longer as it's definitely too short.

I think it sounds great now, reading StaticNomad's comment you improved the intro I guess because it sounded very nice now ;) I am waiting for a rough electric like guitar that kicks into it but you already stated that you were going to add a guitar part extra from your friend. Don't know if others agree but maybe shorten the intro just a little bit found the suspense before getting to the main part kinda long but that's also of course personal taste

this is second track of yours which I've heared & in both self style of yours is worthy of respects & admiration to me . my fav mark tells the rest buT is your collab requesT again regarding vocal ? I'll write U a notice ._____B

Nice Prog Rock sound

Hey, this is pretty awesome! I like how it builds to the crescendo! The only thing I wasn't partial to was the choir sounds at the beginning, but that's just me choir sounds annoy me... ha ha. But it's a jammin tune once it gets going! Nice one!

Very good song, I get that the intro is a movement in itself leading to the 2nd movement. what I would love to hear is a better separation of instruments in the mix (larger stereo field) That would make it a bit more interesting. But it's a brilliant piece of music. well done!

Oh sure, I totally get that the 'intro' is meant to be a foreboding thing. I'm just a big fan of having something very cool in the first 10 seconds so that soon after pressing play people enjoy and also can easily recognise.

I work very hard at making sure my intros are distinctive and almost an instant hook. I've got a great alternative far out hip hop 12 min track right now that I don't want to post just yet because the intro is good but nowhere near good enough and I know I can make it better so I have to do more experimentation and ripping it apart to work how it can be better. The rest of the track is pretty much done.

Maybe go with the bass that comes in 0:17 as the intro and then slowly bring the previous elements in. I also think that synth pad is maybe taking up too much space so needs to be dropped in volume or filtered (EQ?) to let the bass riffs breathe more.

Also, the track is too short as it feels like it builds to something but then ends once you've got used to it. Good luck.

Yes, Danke is also one of my most consistent listeners and commenters (I think I have about 4 or 5).

I agree with StaticNomad...some good things going on but needs work. The intro doesn't really work...at least as an intro. Once it get's moving around 1:52 things get a lot better.

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It really gets moving on 1:52 and really gets moving on 2:22. The intro up to about 1:00 is far too murky and indistinct in the mix. It sounds more like a middle section that an intro as I don't feel it's distinctive enough to be an intro.

There's loads of good stuff in here but the mix is too crowded eg between 1:00 and 1:52 so maybe you need to remove a whole part or turn it down a lot more.

Might be better to start with the 1:52 riff and then use your intro section later on as a breakdown/middle section.

I hope some of this helps and, if not, you work out how to improve this anyway.

No, don't know of any specific mixing tutorials. I'm sure there are loads on the web and certainly if you're prepared to pay for them. I've never done any, just spent a long time learning by doing it over many years rather than reading technical stuff about how to do it (that kind of thing doesn't make much sense to me).

I think this mix is pretty good but there always loads of things you can look at to get better (I do all the time). For a start, if there's something that bothers you at all, really explore why it bothers you. I find out I always turn out to be right and then find a way to improve it.

Apply more EQ on each element of your music to try to bring it out as necessary in the mix. This has helped me so much in the last 2 years and made a massive difference. I keep finding that my drum kits' hi hats need a little extra hi EQ to bring out the hats and my guitar parts generally need a boost of the middle frequencies. And if something has been recorded and is way too noisy/buzzy, you can get rid of that by rolling off all the hi frequencies.

Those are just a few little tips. Also, do lots of soloing of different parts (in your mixer, virtual or hardware). So, just see how your foundations sit together (eg bass and drums) and then work out if the guitar you bring in is somehow clashing with them or whatever.

Just a few ideas to start you off. I think your drums are more of a problem than your mixing as this track has a pretty decent balance to it.

Not sure why you say the piano is in the wrong place. Wrong part of the track or wrong timing in its playing of the notes?

Had a look at Danke's comment and he's absolutely right. From 4:15 onwards is rather excellent and wasn't so obvious to me on first listen. Bass is cool but then the guitar comes in and outshines it with some very tight sort of emotional Tool-funk playing (maybe not the best description but it'll have to do).

The fade/disappearance of that guitar is also almost perfectly done so that the piano is allowed to come to the fore. And then ending on the percussion provides a new point of interest - the kind of thing I love doing.

This is absolutely superb! I definitely agree with Static regarding the drums. Piano is sweet, the guitar is sweeter! LOL.

Love & Light,

Mykael