Hey man, really cool track. I can hear it as a tight little number as is. Very melodic and easy to listen to and I love the running app synth starting at 1:35. It kinda takes the song home, if you know what I mean.
But reading your description, sounds like you like this as the basis and you want to tweek and expand it. If you do, I can envision this track going from cool to great.
Good luck, I hope you get the track to where you want it and I'm looking forward to hearing it reworked if you get around to it.
Damn, the foolish humour in my review apparently didn't come across at all. Perhaps it was too subtle. It was a review based on your comment recently that all you were hoping for in terms of feedback when you first uploaded your stuff online was "not bad".
SO I thought I'd give you a "not bad, bro" review (I really have seen that a few times on this site) but make it much longer than those three words without ever saying a single thing of substance. Just waffle on about how it's not bad without mentioning a single thing that would make it clear I was talking about your track.
Oh, and my page formatting didn't come out right. 'Bad' was supposed to be on the far left, 'Good' on the far right and your track title slap bang in the middle ie in the not bad zone.
I actually think it's an excellent track and very creative stuff. Makes me think of something I might do and the synth work is perhaps your best yet. Probably also doesn't even need to be longer.
I'll give my usual specific detail on each section a bit later. I'm hungry now!
"hopefully in the future it wont be so bad of a tack"
I'll have to be more careful with my humour in the future as I don't want to disappoint you when there's no need!
I recall you mentioning that "not bad" was a rather irritating comment that you received. I though you were possibly referencing that, but truly thought it was one of your quick reviews before coming back and giving a detailed review. I didn't want to say "Whatever, this track is pure gold" when I know there are some issues.
Sucks when I don't pick up on your humor and I waste your thought out joke. Sucks even more when you have to spend 3 paragraphs explaining your joke.
your track was pretty much in the middle, about here
Jason Only Gets Two Hits
I hear a lot of stuff that's quite bad and not so much that's good. I'm a harsh critic so not bad is a pretty decent achievement. Something you could almost boast about to your grandchildren.
I'm not really sure what else there is to say about a not bad track such as this (I think I've pretty much covered it)but I'll perhaps try to find something a little later.
I take it you are not fond of this one. Understandable. That probably means a rewrite for all drums, synths and half the bass guitar. That's fine.
Like I said, I'm not 100% happy with it, but I liked the acoustic line in the first half, and the arpeggiated synth with the Bic and choking sounds in the middle. I had it going other places but I wasn't happy with it so I just repeated the first part and uploaded it for some advice.
I'll keep working on it, and hopefully in the future it wont be so bad of a tack.
Well this is a nice bit of electronic, rock type thing. I like the blend of real and synthetic instruments. I like the way that the beat pattern changes and the bass/guitar work is great.
This is something a little different and that can't be a bad thing.
The melodies are great and everything has it's own little place in the mix. Niceley faded out as well.
FR
Haha love it , kinda has a chiptune feel to it , I keep thinking Shinobi is going to jump out at me somewhere . Great when music can get into your imagination that's what its for :)
I have now emailed you the So Much Room Game compilation. Maybe it’s been deleted, like last time). Quivering cunt muscle speculation coming later. Happy to crack your shit up so hard. That sounds pretty weird in English English.
One idea is that I could do a Harry version that is just replacing the drums, keeping the same structure as I think it’s fine. I could do a separate proper remix, with whatever structure I manage to come up, featuring however much banjo etc as seems appropriate.
Synth sounds:
I’m not very knowledgeable about synths and their programming. I just have good software and good presets to modify. I’m very careful with the few controls I modify, also carefully automating additional effects.
I think my synth sounds sound good because they seem appropriately chosen for the track. The way they blend with each other seems interesting and wouldn’t necessarily work with different sounds. There’s no way I can describe how to do that.
I’d love to teach you to modify synths but it would be hard. There are loads of controls on synths and I don’t think it would help if I described what I’m doing at a certain point in a bar. There might be many controls being automated at the same time, as well as drums etc so lots to describe. What you do with each instrument affects other instruments in the mix. Everything is supposed to blend together so describing what one instrument is doing doesn’t give the full picture.
But maybe I’m wrong and some of this might help you. Mainly, you need to get some better soft synths. Almost all my synth stuff is from Reason so you could do worse than just getting that (which would run simultaneously with Studio One, via Rewire).
I have no secrets to keep to myself and wouldn’t really want to. I don’t use unusual software or hardware. I use standard things but find creative ways to combine things. But, as I work alone, I may actually have some interesting little tricks that no one else uses, though no one (including me) is aware of this. I suspect the way I chop up, recombine and apply effects to guitar parts may be some sort of powerful little trick.
"Your Tips On Life" or "Something New Everyday" could be creative but the lyrics thread certainly isn’t. No requirement to be creative there so people aren’t. Room Game was just right for forcing you to dream up stranger and more elaborate things and it was wide open though the starting letter limitation and loose activity tense format helped provide some structure and format.
N,o I did not know snails only leave trails when they’re about to fuck another snail. Snail Fuck Trail could be your next track. That’s a nicely balanced title – a bit of linguistic fuck sandwich, so to speak.
I figured the synth stuff was a bit much to ask. I need to spend some quality time with Mojito and see what I can come up with over time.
I dug up Song Uno for the meantime. Thought maybe "Last Day On Earth" would make people ponder what is truly important in their only chance at existence, but it's not too entertaining a topic, and most users aren't too,... deep.
Snail Fuck Trail will have to wait. I'm doing one now called "Jason Only Gets Two Hits". My brother, who used to out-smoke me, is now a total lightweight. He will come by to hang out and "pass the thyme", and anymore than two partakeings, the blood in the head drops to the mid-calf area and he is forced to lay, pale as a goofy ghost, on the floor for a few minutes. I have a special pillow of him in the music room. I understand the whole loss of blood in the head thing, happens to me sometimes as well. It's great during an emergency.
Yeah, I was pleased I managed to come up with Nomadgic. Also suggests 'no magic', which is fun.
I listened again to Harry and don’t agree it lacks a lot compared with some of your newer tracks. Still right up there as one of your finest. I could fiddle about and see if I can really add much if you’ve still got the stems you sent before. I’ll save them properly this time and not lose them again. When I listen back, I feel slightly unsure what I would do, apart from improve the drums as I see it as a pretty damn complete track.
I’d probably try to do what I have suggested you do for yourself – get funkier! Perhaps swing the groove more, that sort of thing. And add some synth stuff. Even if a track is excellent and complete, it can always be remixed/reworked in an equally good, or better, way.
I don’t know what Looperites is/are.
Yes, Evilarmy83 is a very good metal guitarist but has poor production – like he’s not even trying to improve (though I have no idea so can’t really judge) and a pretty poor guitar sound. Yes, I remember your StudioOne offer to him.
“I'll donate my living body to science”
Yes, good idea. You can legally sell parts now, actually (aside from organ donation to keep someone else alive). Maybe there’s something you feel you don’t need that much. Some people have sold a testicle, for instance.
So, it’s all over for So Much Room Game. I think I would have difficulty controlling myself in never mentioning anything sexual or risqué. I like to challenge/push boundaries of taste, though all in good spirit and humour and don’t like to have to think about censoring myself. Stifles creativity and pisses me off.
Technically-speaking, my dick-forehead reattachment wasn’t sexual or “bad language” – more anatomical. But I bet that was one of the worst offenders. Damn annoying to think that some people actually complained!
Oh no, maybe your track comments will now be removed! You can blame me if the same person who complained about So Much Room Game is reading this and gets offended again.
Only good thing is that I do have a good few of my So Much Room Game entries saved offline (and some of yours) so will have to spend a while collecting them all and email them to you. Provided no one deletes that email, right?
Kneading The Fat Lumpy Ass Of My Grand-Sugar-Mama, Ignoring The Smell Of Aspercream And Urine And The Sight Of What Appears To Be An Ill Placed Set Of Roast-Beef Curtains.
With Harry, it would be awesome if you gave it a drum treatment, removing the old. I'm sure just that would make it sound wildly better with your kind of treatment. If you do anything to this track, it would benefit most from better drummage.
Also, but only if you want, no hard feelings if not, but like 15 seconds of some synth manipulation, but for the sake of walking me through what you did to get that sound. Your synth sounds are awesome, and I would love to know how a few seconds are made and what is making specific sounds.
Like saying, "This froggy sound was me increasing the envelope as the phaser is on an upswing while slowly lowering the resonance.", or something to that degree. That is why I would want it to be very short in length. It's kinda a lot for you to go through, and I'm sure you have some secrets you should (rightly) keep to yourself for your unique musical flavor.
Ah,... So Much Room Game. May it live in infamy. It was truly quite fun, and I'd love to know who the quivering cunt muscle was that reported it, instead of saying something in the open forum.
Nutless. Sackless. Spineless.
"Kneading The Fat Lumpy Ass Of My Grand-Sugar-Mama, Ignoring The Smell Of Aspercream And Urine And The Sight Of What Appears To Be An Ill Placed Set Of Roast-Beef Curtains."
That cracks my shit up so hard!!! There were some truly poetic ones in there. I'm hoping people will start up on the song lyrics thread, or come up with an equally mind-engaging game as was So Much Room Game.
Maybe "Your Tips On Life." or "Something New Everyday" where interesting facts can be displayed from everyone, like how Bluejays have no blue pigment in their feathers, it's a prismatic effect. Or how snails only leave trails when their about to fuck another snail.
Any ideas? Mind engaging and fun is the main goal.
I could still do some Harry remixing. Perhaps sprinkle a little of my Nomadgic on it. It’s up to you.
If so, would you like banjo or sitar with that? Or note-perfect double tracking of both of them to create a tasty banjsit blend?
I doubt I could do the perfect double tracking and am a bit surprised/impressed you do it in your tracks. Don’t think I could be that disciplined or manage to remember what the hell I’d just played. But then you don’t really jam so much but lay down tight, controlled riffs. I’m just the endless, unstructured jammer, I guess.
I didn’t have the balls before to tell you the files had been deleted from my hard drive. But I’ve since grown a small, modest and discreet pair so thought I’d own up.
Offing yourself is a bit of a morbid thought, isn’t it? Also, do you really want to go out of this world nice track, bro-ing it? That might define you and determine whether you end up in heaven, hell or purgatory (kicking your heels for a thousand years).
You’ve got to go out with something more profound than that. Maybe something like “Like it”, which I remember was a track comment on one of your tracks (which produced a fine, simple reply from you).
P.S. My new version of our favourite track comment is ‘buena cancion, hermano’ though I’m not sure how to say “bro” in Spanish, just brother.
I actually have a more hated track comment that I’ve seen a good few times on this site: “not bad”. What a waste of time that is!
Do what you will to Harry. I feel it lacks quite a bit when listening to it along side some newer tracks of mine. If there is a different one with better sound quality that you'd like to mess with instead, let me know.
I understand that it's not as fulfilling to work on something that isn't yours. I did about five in a row for Looperites and was done with it after that.
Evilarmy83 is a very good metal guitarist that I feel would be an awesome one to collaborate with, but his recording set-up is, I think, a small mic going into the computer's jack. He deserves more. Told him if he got an interface, I'd let him use my Presonus account to download a copy of StudioOne. It would be awesome.
I will never off myself, no worries there. If it all gets really bad, I'll donate my living body to science.
"Not Bad"
When I put my first track on this site, that's all I was hoping for.
Damn, ten months and another reply from you. Sorry on two counts – that 46&2 remix and the Harry work I was supposed to do.
I’ve actually lost those Harry files – some sort of error on the laptop I use for going online. PC in studio never has been online, something I plan to keep like that for all eternity. I felt bad about telling you and that’s why I never have.
Whilst feeling a bit bad for never doing what I said I’d do – there’s another side to it. Basically, all I planned to do is stuff that I hoped you yourself would develop into. So, I wasn’t planning to play any guitar or banj on it (though maybe I should have added 50 bass g riffs, for irony’s sake), just do better drum programming, and chop up and maybe reorder the bass and add whatever effects I felt necessary plus synth stuff. You know how I do it with it my tracks.
When I offered, you were still back in your primitive days of being a slave to drum loops that didn’t really cut it in terms of track feel or movement. So, you’ve progressed a lot with the drum programming, which much better suits your style. I’ve still got much better drum software (and more of it ie more kits) but hopefully you’ll get that too once you can afford it. EZ Drummer is pretty cheap, in my opinion, though I don’t have it, just Superior.
Now you’ve moved seemingly entirely to the drum programming though I’d also recommend using drum loops here and there for their particular feel. I still use them a lot alongside the acoustic kit programming. I just like loads of drums!
Yes, of course, my treatment of your material would always be different to what you would do with it so I could still do the Harry progression remix if you’re really curious about what it might sound like. Maybe I’ll even add a bit of banj. Again, I was hoping that you’d progress even more so there’d be no need for me to work on the track ie you’d just do it all yourself and do a job that would be more pleasing to you than anything I might do. Saying that – quality musicians/producers still go to others for remixes as they like their particular style.
46&2 remix I keep putting off, mostly cos it’s not my actual music so far less important to me. The mixdown I did a few years ago is pretty damn cool (it’s only drums and about 4 synths!) though I still need to develop it a lot. And it’s way too loud – probably a solid tube of toothpaste waveform. Maybe I should just email it to you as a taster of what’s to come. Drums were done before I had Superior so kits are not as good. And it’s only about 3 mins. Total sacrilege for a track by me!
I actually have MIDI files of a bunch of Tool tracks so should sometime try to incorporate some riffs and melodies from some other tracks into the 46&2 remix. That would be great fun, if I can get it to work.
As for the 46&2 thing, sometime it would be neat to hear.
Tell you what, if I'm ever about to off myself, I'll tell you, so and you can send it as a last request. I'll send you a final track comment to your e-mail.
Yo again. I do remember Glottal Frying Morse Coded Anti-Semitic Lesbian Hash-brown Recipes but had almost no idea what it meant. Still not at all sure about all of it.
Never hear of a 'glottal fry' before. Or seen The Grudge. But I might watch it now you mention it.
“I honestly know of NO music jokes”
Bigtime shame on you! A musician into comedy and humour in general has to know some musician jokes. It’s the rules! I don’t know of that many concerning bass players. Most are to do with drummers. Nice little drummer one I like because you really shouldn’t get it unless you’re a musician/into music technology and gear:
What do you call a drummer who can keep time?
Roland
I assume that most people who don’t make music have not really heard of Roland drum machines.
What do you call a guitarist without a girlfriend?
Homeless
What’s the difference between a guitarist and a fixed rate investment bond?
One will eventually mature and earn some money.
There you go – now you know four musician jokes. Glad to be of service.
“"You show me a piece of tropical fruit and I'll show you a cock-sucker from Guatemala!"
I am a Carlin fan but have never heard that before. I also have to admit I don’t really get it!
Anyway: buena cancion, hermano.
P.S. I am a dick for still not starting a thread asking Looperman about what the hell happened to So Much Room Game (yes, I miss it too). But you’re also that same dick! Who will be the first to ask that question?
There's not much more that I can say that Static hasn't already covered, so I'll keep it short at sweet. This ending is a solid improvement. It doesn't seem as rushed. It's obviously more deliberate and steady. Like stairsteps to the void.
Good work, man.
Ah yes - I should guessed it was a cheek flick. You can get a related sound if you tap the top of your head with your knuckle and change the shape of your mouth. Still think you might have layered a toilet plop in there.
"I will never record any business involving my ass"
Don't limit your creative possibilities. Actual Sonic Ass Work (track title?) may be just what a particular track calls for.
The glockenspiel thing was entirely a silly joke.
Hey, your ending sounds better now. Just more gracefully done, with each element fading out rather than the unimaginative 'volume down' fadeout. Means we get to hear each element a bit more clearly and the final decay of the piano note is a good ultimate ending. I like a fadeout ending of the type in which you hear instruments' decaying notes fading away. That's the original and natural fadeout ending.
"Wow, it's like you were in the room watching when I said "FUCK IT!"
Your physical actions were encoded in the sound.
UnVagitated is a cool track name. No idea what it means but it sounds good. Maybe vagitated is the vaginal version of agitated ie "bothered/disturbed by a vagina" so unvagitated is coming out of/getting over the bother caused to you by that pesky vagina. I'm not sure.
" I appreciate the most, someone else being picky, but with fresh ears"
I freshen them up with a special spray every time before listening to your tracks.
I like the idea of Ryan's Ex-Money.
But maybe that user is a female who's proud of going out with Ryan and getting both his sex and his money. Anything's possible...
Finally, my favourite musician joke. Tell me a better one in reply!
Q. What's the difference between a jazz guitarist and a rock guitarist?
A. A rock guitarist plays three chords to thousands of people...
The water-drip/cheek thing was in a book owned by a friend called Mouth Sounds. One page was an actual floppy record recording and demonstration of the different sounds that went on a turn-table. I mentioned once before, (in the sorely missed So Much Room Game), Glottal Frying Morse Coded Anti-Semitic Lesbian Hash-brown Recipes. A 'glottal fry' is the odd popping sound you make when you slow down your airflow while moaning. Immortalized is the film 'The Grudge'.
I honestly know of NO music jokes. There are many bashing bassplayers.
But my favorite one-liner of all time is from Carlin.
"You show me a piece of tropical fruit and I'll show you a cock-sucker from Guatemala!"
I think the general consensus here is the fade out ending. I don't think it was a bad choice. The overall energy of this track seems to be one that constantly pushes forward. I think any other kind of ending would kill that momentum. But, I do believe that it sounded rushed. I think if you were to have created a final transition just for the sake of fading it out, one that varied a little more from the main body, it may have flowed more naturally. OR, alternately, if you were to do a more abrupt ending, finish it off with the snares like you already have, but have them accompanied by just the piano playing the main bass riff to a good closing point.
Those are just my own personal opinions, though. Take them for what they're worth.
As far as the overall track goes, I like it. I think your incorporation of synths are getting better. Awesome work, man.
Take care.
Aaron.
I took a bit of your advice. Doubled the length, took out some distorted high-bass guitar, and added some new drums and a piano line. Still a fade-out, but I think it's better. Thanks again!
Hi MrEvan,
Liked a lot this new track of yours.
This time I would like to hear some vocals on it: I think a good vocal part may really exploit the beauty of this track.
My highlights:
- 0:40 to 1:01 this section has some real "epicness". liked a lot ... and of course its repetition as well ;-)
- 1:58 the "slap-like" bass is really working well and the melodic part that follows is a killer.
What I didn't like too much: the fadeout sounds a bit "poor" ... nice try with the drums fading out later than the rest, but I fear it is not enough for such a great track.
Ciao, Domenico
I appreciate you letting me know about the ending. It has received some attention so I hope it's better. I just didn't feel it going anywhere else so faded it out. I was pretty beat. Thanks again!!
Sweet song, sister (it's the new "Nice track, bro", in case you didn't know).
Incidentally, I hope you're familiar with the excellent rock song Sweet Soul Sister by The Cult. If not, enjoy its kickarse guitar and everything else now:
Butt cheek? Face cheek? Or a bit of cheek ie cheekiness?
Anyway, cool, slightly organy fade-in intro. And then a couple of plops into the toilet bowl and we're rocking. Nicely, with some big, layered riffs incorporating that slightly organy effect.
Drums are back in the mix until about 0:18, when they become more prominent, but that's fine.
0:39 change has two riffs neatly layered. Then 0:50 lead is a nice touch, Pretty clever having those 3 together like that.
Then back to rocking as you like sections to be short and sweet.
1:33 back to military snare gentler section. Snares are good there.
1:54 very Toolish/youish, which is a good thing. Hanging, wavering note makes for a perfect transition.
Then you introduce the piano, which is good agan. Really fits your music though not something I would have suggested to you. Goes to show you have to make whatever you choose work. And there's no right or wrong suggestion for a new element of flavour to add. A bit more glockenspiel would be nice, though.
Fadeout ending cos I guess you kind of gave up. Not bad, just could be better.
Overall, another slice of badassery and piano is working well for you. Just gotta find a few more sounds to add depth and texture to the obviously fine and creative guitbass work.
I've hardly got any criticism for this one. And you know I really do try!
P.S. First user to play this track was ryansexmoney. Do you think that's Ryan Sex Money or Ryan's Ex Money? Maybe he's haunted by all the money someone stole from him or that he gambled away...
"Butt cheek? Face cheek? Or a bit of cheek ie cheekiness?"
Face cheek. I think it's called a "ploit". The finger-flicking of the hollow cheek while miming "OY".
As distasteful and vulgar as some of my ramblings here have been, I will never record any business involving my ass. Promise.
"A bit more glockenspiel would be nice, though."
Do you mean more piano attack, or no piano and instead have the glockenspiel instrument?
"Fadeout ending cos I guess you kind of gave up."
Wow, it's like you were in the room watching when I said "FUCK IT!", and grabbed the right fade-out and pulled it to the left, exported a mixdown and saved it. I was getting pretty tired. Bitch excuse, I know, but it is what it is. I spent more time with it tonight so I feel a little de-bitched. Or un-vagitated. Oohh, I like that one. New track name!
"I've hardly got any criticism for this one. And you know I really do try!"
That's what I appreciate the most, someone else being picky, but with fresh ears. You have been a huge help in my process. I hope eventually most of my tracks will be hard for problems to be found. That's the goal!
Ryan's Ex Money- $48 dollars cash is sitting behind a laptop with Fruity Loops or whatever, making forlorn and very sad techno, trying to express to Ryan how they should still be together. Something should be done, though. The $48 has started self-mutilating. It was two $20's, a $5 and three singles. Now it's nine $5's and three $1's. And it was so close to being a $50! Shame.
Hey Evan,"niceTrack"
sounds Familiar (0:40 Metallica Unforgiven)but well done,the piano and the Bassline sounds good, Drums need more Power,i think a Guitar solo maybe nessesary,but thats in my opinion.
Good Work,all the best,DRO
HI MrEvan,
Already a lot said on this track, so I will just add my words of appreciations without too many details.
Very good!
Sax sound isn't the best one, but it works.
Good drumming (not outstanding but good, very good).
Superb bass playing! Somebody said tool-ish but I still think you have your unique and incredibly good own style.
If you ever touch this song again, maybe you could change the ending and make it a tad longer.
But I loved (and downloaded) it as it is.
Thanks for sharing your music.
Ciao, Domenico
Still Chewing this one, like a star-burst watermelon flavoured candy in my mouth 1:38 on is my favourite part. But 1:56 breaks my jaw. 2:42 grinds my jaw to pulp with that clean sounding bass-line. Nice background synth to counterpoint the bass-line. The it sounds retro-60]s organ like with all the glissando's. good work on this one Evan
Steve
Man you are one of the masters of this genre, you never fail to impress with your guitar work, loving the piano, as you know I love using piano in my own works so always love hearing in others tunes, sounds brilliant here on laptop, look forward to one day you having vocals on some of these masterpiece's reckon would sky rocket them into the universe of total brilliance, massive work and even more MASSIVE fav...Peace n MUCH Respect...Mosaic...
This is pretty tight...if this is unmixed I can't wait to hear it mixed because this sounds damn good. Maybe a tasty lead guitar in one or two spots and this would feel complete even without vocals. The bass is outstanding as always and the guitar sounds nice. I agree with Ed, you need to break her out more often and show her some love...:)
Well, my Ibanez SR600's electronics took a shit on me the other day, so I'm down to the lefty Squier, acoustic Squier (righty), and my Epiphone P-bass with the tone pot broken and set to "mud" tone and can't be changed without repair. It's a sad day in the Evisma house.
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But reading your description, sounds like you like this as the basis and you want to tweek and expand it. If you do, I can envision this track going from cool to great.
Good luck, I hope you get the track to where you want it and I'm looking forward to hearing it reworked if you get around to it.
Good work man
RW
Evan
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Damn, the foolish humour in my review apparently didn't come across at all. Perhaps it was too subtle. It was a review based on your comment recently that all you were hoping for in terms of feedback when you first uploaded your stuff online was "not bad".
SO I thought I'd give you a "not bad, bro" review (I really have seen that a few times on this site) but make it much longer than those three words without ever saying a single thing of substance. Just waffle on about how it's not bad without mentioning a single thing that would make it clear I was talking about your track.
Oh, and my page formatting didn't come out right. 'Bad' was supposed to be on the far left, 'Good' on the far right and your track title slap bang in the middle ie in the not bad zone.
I actually think it's an excellent track and very creative stuff. Makes me think of something I might do and the synth work is perhaps your best yet. Probably also doesn't even need to be longer.
I'll give my usual specific detail on each section a bit later. I'm hungry now!
"hopefully in the future it wont be so bad of a tack"
I'll have to be more careful with my humour in the future as I don't want to disappoint you when there's no need!
Sucks when I don't pick up on your humor and I waste your thought out joke. Sucks even more when you have to spend 3 paragraphs explaining your joke.
I apologize for my density.
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Basically, if bad is over here
Bad
and good is over there
Good
your track was pretty much in the middle, about here
Jason Only Gets Two Hits
I hear a lot of stuff that's quite bad and not so much that's good. I'm a harsh critic so not bad is a pretty decent achievement. Something you could almost boast about to your grandchildren.
I'm not really sure what else there is to say about a not bad track such as this (I think I've pretty much covered it)but I'll perhaps try to find something a little later.
Congratulations on coming up with a not bad tack.
Like I said, I'm not 100% happy with it, but I liked the acoustic line in the first half, and the arpeggiated synth with the Bic and choking sounds in the middle. I had it going other places but I wasn't happy with it so I just repeated the first part and uploaded it for some advice.
I'll keep working on it, and hopefully in the future it wont be so bad of a tack.
Evan
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This is something a little different and that can't be a bad thing.
The melodies are great and everything has it's own little place in the mix. Niceley faded out as well.
FR
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I have no idea what that means. No one is going to jump out at you,... you're safe here, it's ok, fffffuuurrrrrrrrrr....
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I have now emailed you the So Much Room Game compilation. Maybe it’s been deleted, like last time). Quivering cunt muscle speculation coming later. Happy to crack your shit up so hard. That sounds pretty weird in English English.
One idea is that I could do a Harry version that is just replacing the drums, keeping the same structure as I think it’s fine. I could do a separate proper remix, with whatever structure I manage to come up, featuring however much banjo etc as seems appropriate.
Synth sounds:
I’m not very knowledgeable about synths and their programming. I just have good software and good presets to modify. I’m very careful with the few controls I modify, also carefully automating additional effects.
I think my synth sounds sound good because they seem appropriately chosen for the track. The way they blend with each other seems interesting and wouldn’t necessarily work with different sounds. There’s no way I can describe how to do that.
I’d love to teach you to modify synths but it would be hard. There are loads of controls on synths and I don’t think it would help if I described what I’m doing at a certain point in a bar. There might be many controls being automated at the same time, as well as drums etc so lots to describe. What you do with each instrument affects other instruments in the mix. Everything is supposed to blend together so describing what one instrument is doing doesn’t give the full picture.
But maybe I’m wrong and some of this might help you. Mainly, you need to get some better soft synths. Almost all my synth stuff is from Reason so you could do worse than just getting that (which would run simultaneously with Studio One, via Rewire).
I have no secrets to keep to myself and wouldn’t really want to. I don’t use unusual software or hardware. I use standard things but find creative ways to combine things. But, as I work alone, I may actually have some interesting little tricks that no one else uses, though no one (including me) is aware of this. I suspect the way I chop up, recombine and apply effects to guitar parts may be some sort of powerful little trick.
"Your Tips On Life" or "Something New Everyday" could be creative but the lyrics thread certainly isn’t. No requirement to be creative there so people aren’t. Room Game was just right for forcing you to dream up stranger and more elaborate things and it was wide open though the starting letter limitation and loose activity tense format helped provide some structure and format.
N,o I did not know snails only leave trails when they’re about to fuck another snail. Snail Fuck Trail could be your next track. That’s a nicely balanced title – a bit of linguistic fuck sandwich, so to speak.
I dug up Song Uno for the meantime. Thought maybe "Last Day On Earth" would make people ponder what is truly important in their only chance at existence, but it's not too entertaining a topic, and most users aren't too,... deep.
Snail Fuck Trail will have to wait. I'm doing one now called "Jason Only Gets Two Hits". My brother, who used to out-smoke me, is now a total lightweight. He will come by to hang out and "pass the thyme", and anymore than two partakeings, the blood in the head drops to the mid-calf area and he is forced to lay, pale as a goofy ghost, on the floor for a few minutes. I have a special pillow of him in the music room. I understand the whole loss of blood in the head thing, happens to me sometimes as well. It's great during an emergency.
Evan
on Harry the Soapbar by Evisma
Yeah, I was pleased I managed to come up with Nomadgic. Also suggests 'no magic', which is fun.
I listened again to Harry and don’t agree it lacks a lot compared with some of your newer tracks. Still right up there as one of your finest. I could fiddle about and see if I can really add much if you’ve still got the stems you sent before. I’ll save them properly this time and not lose them again. When I listen back, I feel slightly unsure what I would do, apart from improve the drums as I see it as a pretty damn complete track.
I’d probably try to do what I have suggested you do for yourself – get funkier! Perhaps swing the groove more, that sort of thing. And add some synth stuff. Even if a track is excellent and complete, it can always be remixed/reworked in an equally good, or better, way.
I don’t know what Looperites is/are.
Yes, Evilarmy83 is a very good metal guitarist but has poor production – like he’s not even trying to improve (though I have no idea so can’t really judge) and a pretty poor guitar sound. Yes, I remember your StudioOne offer to him.
“I'll donate my living body to science”
Yes, good idea. You can legally sell parts now, actually (aside from organ donation to keep someone else alive). Maybe there’s something you feel you don’t need that much. Some people have sold a testicle, for instance.
So, it’s all over for So Much Room Game. I think I would have difficulty controlling myself in never mentioning anything sexual or risqué. I like to challenge/push boundaries of taste, though all in good spirit and humour and don’t like to have to think about censoring myself. Stifles creativity and pisses me off.
Technically-speaking, my dick-forehead reattachment wasn’t sexual or “bad language” – more anatomical. But I bet that was one of the worst offenders. Damn annoying to think that some people actually complained!
Oh no, maybe your track comments will now be removed! You can blame me if the same person who complained about So Much Room Game is reading this and gets offended again.
Only good thing is that I do have a good few of my So Much Room Game entries saved offline (and some of yours) so will have to spend a while collecting them all and email them to you. Provided no one deletes that email, right?
Kneading The Fat Lumpy Ass Of My Grand-Sugar-Mama, Ignoring The Smell Of Aspercream And Urine And The Sight Of What Appears To Be An Ill Placed Set Of Roast-Beef Curtains.
With Harry, it would be awesome if you gave it a drum treatment, removing the old. I'm sure just that would make it sound wildly better with your kind of treatment. If you do anything to this track, it would benefit most from better drummage.
Also, but only if you want, no hard feelings if not, but like 15 seconds of some synth manipulation, but for the sake of walking me through what you did to get that sound. Your synth sounds are awesome, and I would love to know how a few seconds are made and what is making specific sounds.
Like saying, "This froggy sound was me increasing the envelope as the phaser is on an upswing while slowly lowering the resonance.", or something to that degree. That is why I would want it to be very short in length. It's kinda a lot for you to go through, and I'm sure you have some secrets you should (rightly) keep to yourself for your unique musical flavor.
Ah,... So Much Room Game. May it live in infamy. It was truly quite fun, and I'd love to know who the quivering cunt muscle was that reported it, instead of saying something in the open forum.
Nutless. Sackless. Spineless.
"Kneading The Fat Lumpy Ass Of My Grand-Sugar-Mama, Ignoring The Smell Of Aspercream And Urine And The Sight Of What Appears To Be An Ill Placed Set Of Roast-Beef Curtains."
That cracks my shit up so hard!!! There were some truly poetic ones in there. I'm hoping people will start up on the song lyrics thread, or come up with an equally mind-engaging game as was So Much Room Game.
Maybe "Your Tips On Life." or "Something New Everyday" where interesting facts can be displayed from everyone, like how Bluejays have no blue pigment in their feathers, it's a prismatic effect. Or how snails only leave trails when their about to fuck another snail.
Any ideas? Mind engaging and fun is the main goal.
on Harry the Soapbar by Evisma
I could still do some Harry remixing. Perhaps sprinkle a little of my Nomadgic on it. It’s up to you.
If so, would you like banjo or sitar with that? Or note-perfect double tracking of both of them to create a tasty banjsit blend?
I doubt I could do the perfect double tracking and am a bit surprised/impressed you do it in your tracks. Don’t think I could be that disciplined or manage to remember what the hell I’d just played. But then you don’t really jam so much but lay down tight, controlled riffs. I’m just the endless, unstructured jammer, I guess.
I didn’t have the balls before to tell you the files had been deleted from my hard drive. But I’ve since grown a small, modest and discreet pair so thought I’d own up.
Offing yourself is a bit of a morbid thought, isn’t it? Also, do you really want to go out of this world nice track, bro-ing it? That might define you and determine whether you end up in heaven, hell or purgatory (kicking your heels for a thousand years).
You’ve got to go out with something more profound than that. Maybe something like “Like it”, which I remember was a track comment on one of your tracks (which produced a fine, simple reply from you).
P.S. My new version of our favourite track comment is ‘buena cancion, hermano’ though I’m not sure how to say “bro” in Spanish, just brother.
I actually have a more hated track comment that I’ve seen a good few times on this site: “not bad”. What a waste of time that is!
Do what you will to Harry. I feel it lacks quite a bit when listening to it along side some newer tracks of mine. If there is a different one with better sound quality that you'd like to mess with instead, let me know.
I understand that it's not as fulfilling to work on something that isn't yours. I did about five in a row for Looperites and was done with it after that.
Evilarmy83 is a very good metal guitarist that I feel would be an awesome one to collaborate with, but his recording set-up is, I think, a small mic going into the computer's jack. He deserves more. Told him if he got an interface, I'd let him use my Presonus account to download a copy of StudioOne. It would be awesome.
I will never off myself, no worries there. If it all gets really bad, I'll donate my living body to science.
"Not Bad"
When I put my first track on this site, that's all I was hoping for.
on Harry the Soapbar by Evisma
I’ve actually lost those Harry files – some sort of error on the laptop I use for going online. PC in studio never has been online, something I plan to keep like that for all eternity. I felt bad about telling you and that’s why I never have.
Whilst feeling a bit bad for never doing what I said I’d do – there’s another side to it. Basically, all I planned to do is stuff that I hoped you yourself would develop into. So, I wasn’t planning to play any guitar or banj on it (though maybe I should have added 50 bass g riffs, for irony’s sake), just do better drum programming, and chop up and maybe reorder the bass and add whatever effects I felt necessary plus synth stuff. You know how I do it with it my tracks.
When I offered, you were still back in your primitive days of being a slave to drum loops that didn’t really cut it in terms of track feel or movement. So, you’ve progressed a lot with the drum programming, which much better suits your style. I’ve still got much better drum software (and more of it ie more kits) but hopefully you’ll get that too once you can afford it. EZ Drummer is pretty cheap, in my opinion, though I don’t have it, just Superior.
Now you’ve moved seemingly entirely to the drum programming though I’d also recommend using drum loops here and there for their particular feel. I still use them a lot alongside the acoustic kit programming. I just like loads of drums!
Yes, of course, my treatment of your material would always be different to what you would do with it so I could still do the Harry progression remix if you’re really curious about what it might sound like. Maybe I’ll even add a bit of banj. Again, I was hoping that you’d progress even more so there’d be no need for me to work on the track ie you’d just do it all yourself and do a job that would be more pleasing to you than anything I might do. Saying that – quality musicians/producers still go to others for remixes as they like their particular style.
46&2 remix I keep putting off, mostly cos it’s not my actual music so far less important to me. The mixdown I did a few years ago is pretty damn cool (it’s only drums and about 4 synths!) though I still need to develop it a lot. And it’s way too loud – probably a solid tube of toothpaste waveform. Maybe I should just email it to you as a taster of what’s to come. Drums were done before I had Superior so kits are not as good. And it’s only about 3 mins. Total sacrilege for a track by me!
I actually have MIDI files of a bunch of Tool tracks so should sometime try to incorporate some riffs and melodies from some other tracks into the 46&2 remix. That would be great fun, if I can get it to work.
As for the 46&2 thing, sometime it would be neat to hear.
Tell you what, if I'm ever about to off myself, I'll tell you, so and you can send it as a last request. I'll send you a final track comment to your e-mail.
"nice track, bro."
on The Meandering Somnambulist by Evisma
Never hear of a 'glottal fry' before. Or seen The Grudge. But I might watch it now you mention it.
“I honestly know of NO music jokes”
Bigtime shame on you! A musician into comedy and humour in general has to know some musician jokes. It’s the rules! I don’t know of that many concerning bass players. Most are to do with drummers. Nice little drummer one I like because you really shouldn’t get it unless you’re a musician/into music technology and gear:
What do you call a drummer who can keep time?
Roland
I assume that most people who don’t make music have not really heard of Roland drum machines.
What do you call a guitarist without a girlfriend?
Homeless
What’s the difference between a guitarist and a fixed rate investment bond?
One will eventually mature and earn some money.
There you go – now you know four musician jokes. Glad to be of service.
“"You show me a piece of tropical fruit and I'll show you a cock-sucker from Guatemala!"
I am a Carlin fan but have never heard that before. I also have to admit I don’t really get it!
Anyway: buena cancion, hermano.
P.S. I am a dick for still not starting a thread asking Looperman about what the hell happened to So Much Room Game (yes, I miss it too). But you’re also that same dick! Who will be the first to ask that question?
on Cryptic Council by Evisma
on The Meandering Somnambulist by Evisma
Good work, man.
Take care.
Aaron.
And I'm a fan of short and sweet.
E.
on The Meandering Somnambulist by Evisma
"I will never record any business involving my ass"
Don't limit your creative possibilities. Actual Sonic Ass Work (track title?) may be just what a particular track calls for.
The glockenspiel thing was entirely a silly joke.
Hey, your ending sounds better now. Just more gracefully done, with each element fading out rather than the unimaginative 'volume down' fadeout. Means we get to hear each element a bit more clearly and the final decay of the piano note is a good ultimate ending. I like a fadeout ending of the type in which you hear instruments' decaying notes fading away. That's the original and natural fadeout ending.
"Wow, it's like you were in the room watching when I said "FUCK IT!"
Your physical actions were encoded in the sound.
UnVagitated is a cool track name. No idea what it means but it sounds good. Maybe vagitated is the vaginal version of agitated ie "bothered/disturbed by a vagina" so unvagitated is coming out of/getting over the bother caused to you by that pesky vagina. I'm not sure.
" I appreciate the most, someone else being picky, but with fresh ears"
I freshen them up with a special spray every time before listening to your tracks.
I like the idea of Ryan's Ex-Money.
But maybe that user is a female who's proud of going out with Ryan and getting both his sex and his money. Anything's possible...
Finally, my favourite musician joke. Tell me a better one in reply!
Q. What's the difference between a jazz guitarist and a rock guitarist?
A. A rock guitarist plays three chords to thousands of people...
I honestly know of NO music jokes. There are many bashing bassplayers.
But my favorite one-liner of all time is from Carlin.
"You show me a piece of tropical fruit and I'll show you a cock-sucker from Guatemala!"
Evan
on The Meandering Somnambulist by Evisma
Those are just my own personal opinions, though. Take them for what they're worth.
As far as the overall track goes, I like it. I think your incorporation of synths are getting better. Awesome work, man.
Take care.
Aaron.
Evan
on The Meandering Somnambulist by Evisma
Liked a lot this new track of yours.
This time I would like to hear some vocals on it: I think a good vocal part may really exploit the beauty of this track.
My highlights:
- 0:40 to 1:01 this section has some real "epicness". liked a lot ... and of course its repetition as well ;-)
- 1:58 the "slap-like" bass is really working well and the melodic part that follows is a killer.
What I didn't like too much: the fadeout sounds a bit "poor" ... nice try with the drums fading out later than the rest, but I fear it is not enough for such a great track.
Ciao, Domenico
Evan
on The Meandering Somnambulist by Evisma
Incidentally, I hope you're familiar with the excellent rock song Sweet Soul Sister by The Cult. If not, enjoy its kickarse guitar and everything else now:
The Cult - Sweet Soul Sister
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx6YB8My1d4
"MIDI piano, and a cheek"
Butt cheek? Face cheek? Or a bit of cheek ie cheekiness?
Anyway, cool, slightly organy fade-in intro. And then a couple of plops into the toilet bowl and we're rocking. Nicely, with some big, layered riffs incorporating that slightly organy effect.
Drums are back in the mix until about 0:18, when they become more prominent, but that's fine.
0:39 change has two riffs neatly layered. Then 0:50 lead is a nice touch, Pretty clever having those 3 together like that.
Then back to rocking as you like sections to be short and sweet.
1:33 back to military snare gentler section. Snares are good there.
1:54 very Toolish/youish, which is a good thing. Hanging, wavering note makes for a perfect transition.
Then you introduce the piano, which is good agan. Really fits your music though not something I would have suggested to you. Goes to show you have to make whatever you choose work. And there's no right or wrong suggestion for a new element of flavour to add. A bit more glockenspiel would be nice, though.
Fadeout ending cos I guess you kind of gave up. Not bad, just could be better.
Overall, another slice of badassery and piano is working well for you. Just gotta find a few more sounds to add depth and texture to the obviously fine and creative guitbass work.
I've hardly got any criticism for this one. And you know I really do try!
P.S. First user to play this track was ryansexmoney. Do you think that's Ryan Sex Money or Ryan's Ex Money? Maybe he's haunted by all the money someone stole from him or that he gambled away...
Face cheek. I think it's called a "ploit". The finger-flicking of the hollow cheek while miming "OY".
As distasteful and vulgar as some of my ramblings here have been, I will never record any business involving my ass. Promise.
"A bit more glockenspiel would be nice, though."
Do you mean more piano attack, or no piano and instead have the glockenspiel instrument?
"Fadeout ending cos I guess you kind of gave up."
Wow, it's like you were in the room watching when I said "FUCK IT!", and grabbed the right fade-out and pulled it to the left, exported a mixdown and saved it. I was getting pretty tired. Bitch excuse, I know, but it is what it is. I spent more time with it tonight so I feel a little de-bitched. Or un-vagitated. Oohh, I like that one. New track name!
"I've hardly got any criticism for this one. And you know I really do try!"
That's what I appreciate the most, someone else being picky, but with fresh ears. You have been a huge help in my process. I hope eventually most of my tracks will be hard for problems to be found. That's the goal!
Ryan's Ex Money- $48 dollars cash is sitting behind a laptop with Fruity Loops or whatever, making forlorn and very sad techno, trying to express to Ryan how they should still be together. Something should be done, though. The $48 has started self-mutilating. It was two $20's, a $5 and three singles. Now it's nine $5's and three $1's. And it was so close to being a $50! Shame.
Evan
on The Meandering Somnambulist by Evisma
sounds Familiar (0:40 Metallica Unforgiven)but well done,the piano and the Bassline sounds good, Drums need more Power,i think a Guitar solo maybe nessesary,but thats in my opinion.
Good Work,all the best,DRO
on Weapons Of Mastication by Evisma
Already a lot said on this track, so I will just add my words of appreciations without too many details.
Very good!
Sax sound isn't the best one, but it works.
Good drumming (not outstanding but good, very good).
Superb bass playing! Somebody said tool-ish but I still think you have your unique and incredibly good own style.
If you ever touch this song again, maybe you could change the ending and make it a tad longer.
But I loved (and downloaded) it as it is.
Thanks for sharing your music.
Ciao, Domenico
on Weapons Of Mastication by Evisma
Steve
on Weapons Of Mastication by Evisma
on Weapons Of Mastication by Evisma
-Evan D.
I am in the business of intertwining, pay is shit but the hours are good.
on Twisticles by Evisma
Man you are one of the masters of this genre, you never fail to impress with your guitar work, loving the piano, as you know I love using piano in my own works so always love hearing in others tunes, sounds brilliant here on laptop, look forward to one day you having vocals on some of these masterpiece's reckon would sky rocket them into the universe of total brilliance, massive work and even more MASSIVE fav...Peace n MUCH Respect...Mosaic...
Thank you for the kind words. They mean a lot to me.
Evan
on The Overcasters by Evisma
Nice job.
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