Genres.....mmmmmm.....who the hack needs them? My mistake to use one of them to explain something :)
Ok, lets try to explain the unexplainabel
Disco is in my mind something fresh an funny, somekind of good vibrations and happy shiny people that dance in a friendly style and have a smile on there faces .... i think you know what i mean :)
EBM is more a bit darker, a bit more hypnotic, a bit more on a -stand around and dance in a standing way- with closed eys and some more "inside" feelings ....... bla bla bla :)
Maybe your -demon disco- fits real good :)
but i (personaly) dont have a demonic feeling at this track
cause demonic sounds so evil and i think this isnt evil at all, it is just a cool kind of disco music in my ears with a little dark hypnotic touch.
But who cares, it is just music. cool music. Nothing more, nothing less. And you played it all very very well my friend.
Respect for a real musican like you are one for sure Steve.
Hope that this helps to understand what i wanted to say :)
"EBM is more a bit darker, a bit more hypnotic, a bit more on a -stand around and dance in a standing way- with closed eys and some more "inside" feelings ....... bla bla bla :)"
OK Joe I get your Zeitgeist on this, but what does EBM stand for exactly? Electronic Bitch Music? Electronic Bourgeois music, Emo Banging Mantra's...that's what I wanted clarification on.
"it is just a cool kind of disco music in my ears with a little dark hypnotic touch."
I would agree with that assessment. Demon Disco is not a widely used term, and I believe New Order would fall into that category with Blue Monday.
"Respect for a real musican like you are one for sure Steve."
Thank you Mate.
to me Disco is more complicated and simpler than the fluff pop garbage we got served on pop radio from 1977-1980. There is T.S.O.P. filled with strings. Funk-Disco (White Cherry), Giorgio Moroder's electronic early Trance. rock disco fusion. Early House music. But the one thing in common with all those tracks and genres was a simple 4/4 beat at around 120bpm, that is all you need to be considered disco.
Bee Gee's were incredible songwriters and melody creators. For a period they still wrote great songs but just added the 4/4 beat. I heard Adam Lambert do a version of more than a woman, but in a broken down acoustic style that was incredible. why...the underlying song and melody is good.
Cru54
Ahh I love doing that solo. It's actually much easier than many of the other solos I have done. But I love to play this one and glad u got to hear it and most touched you commented on it , with it's many wah effects because it's just pure joy for me to play.
Cru
you made me tap my foot, with something that was the same time a bit "scary".
I must be insane... how did you know it? :-)
Hope all is well...
Ciao, Domenico
Domenico... you are definitely not insane my friend. your one of the sanest people I know here! Demon disco at it's finest. This song is really a test to make sure you haven't had a stroke!
Steve
Well Steve I must admit I never was much of a fan of the 70's Disco era. But there was some pretty cool things happening music wise that developed and ushered in the new wave / electronic sounds of the 80's. To me this track is really representative of that time period and one artist in particular -Thomas Dolby. That synth hook line is very close to the one he used in "She Blinded me with Science". I played the grooves outta that album!
Really slick production here bro. Totally dig your keyboard work, nice BIG wall of sound and the funky fills are a cool contrasting element to the orchestration. Very dynamic and suspenseful sounding track.
All those songs contributed to the synthesis of this one. Thomas Dolby.. love his work. Hyperactive, and Close but no cigar are two of my fav songs from him.
nice comment my friend.
Crugracious
Yo Steve this is a intresting one.
Sounds a bit like a EBM sort of Disco (in my ears and or mind)
But thats a real nice thing!
I like this sound that sounds like someone should say -dis-co-thek- and that makes this track kind of hypnotic in a way. Nice speed, it's a bit a driving groove and stays a little in mind after hearing.
Did you play it all by yourself?
The mix is well sounding and the solo is in a cool wild style.
This is a sort of disco i realy can enjoy.
Hey Joe,
" EBM sort of Disco " please explain EBM to me?
This is played entirely by myself. String stabs, guitar sounds, percussion, bass line. All me on this one.
I was going for a Demon Disco sound.
Cruditeck
LOL I like this track. reminds me of all time classics disco tracks.If you do have time put some vocals on,maybe ft Madonna
somewhere in the track hahaha. Goood job dude.
I telephoned Madonna but "Like a Virgin" she "hung up" on me because she is such a "Material girl" I would need something "Like a Prayer" at this point to get her to listen. it's like she is "Miles Away" from my "Music". At this point I would have to be one "Lucky Star" for her to "justify my ...er song" to her.
;-)
Last halloween my Grandson (9) got one of those dollar store :Insane Asylum" signs & posted it on my studio wall...most of the people whose music I like are eejits (Irish expression)...and I am happy to be included...this is not quite as insane as I had thought it might be...hell, it almost sounds like normal-good (is there a genre for that)....Cheers Steve...always enjoy listening...Ed
Thank You Ed. eejits (idiots) nice. And yes when I write about insanity I happen to trick you by making a straight ahead pop tune. All in a day's work ehh? Thanks for stopping bye.
Steve
Been wanting to comment on this track for like 5 days now but I couldn't. Like I seriously couldn't cuz I cant go 15 seconds on looperman without my browser crashing.
Anyways I gotta say man around the 1:30 mark where the piano chords and the voices and distant gunshots came in there came about a eerie and powerful feeling that gave me the goosebumps. Not many tracks do that. Then at the same time that transitioned to a more uplifting and bouncy tracks. It created this nice contrast.
I am deeply humbled by your response. My goal was to make a house tune that would stop people in their tracks and have to think about war.
Your comment about the piano part giving you goosebumps gave me goosebumps. That's what I wanted for this tune.
I appreciate your comments
Cruhallelujah
Just to say to you that I've been trying to apply external thoughts/concepts on sidechain compression which I guess is very crucial in/at house genres. In other words I have tried sidechain compression but couldn't even touch that kick light/delight pumping as present on on your track.
Very cool one track otherwise!
Sorry for a comment in negative regarding to my efforts. I truly enjoyed listening!
If all would dance, then there would be nobody left to fight.
I made a track in the middle of the 90's with the name - shutup and dance! - Right now i would love to say that loud to all this "War horny leaders and followers"
This is a nice one Steve. Didn't listen to it befor, cause it came up befor i was on looperman. So nice that you updated it and i see it :)
How right you are about the timing for a re-release...its was good before...its even better now and a fitting soundtrack for the state of our temporary little planet...great stuff Steve...Ed
This sounds like a 1980's evil clowns song haha. Think "Attack of the Killer Clowns." I am always impressed by your work cru and this one is no exception. :)
Your title is pretty much composition philosophy/technique - keep throwing stuff at a track and see what sticks and keep on going until you hit on a really cool riff, fill or whatever.
Anyway: I like this.
Intro has a bit of fairground organ feel. That's what they play on the trance Merry-Go-Round.
0:07 much dirtier and then a bit of a music box type of melody and sound.
When that dirty top line kicks in 0:31, it all comes together, even without that much of a bassline. That is such a cool riff. What is it? It's quite a bit guitarey.
This has some of the dirt of grunge but it's very much a dance track so congrats on bringing those genres together - something I also like to do.
2:50 bongo grooves plus metallic percussion are good.
3:36 another synth with some cool movement and timbre, getting more intense around 3:52. shit building nicely before the next breakdown.
4:23 and it sounds a bit like a DJ changing record. Definitely at 4:38 as it sounds like a new track.
Aha my fave riff is returning but then drops out a little before 5:34 when another synth part takes over.
6:07 bassier synth moving about playfully.
Ending is too abrupt though I know it can be hard to do something else that fits nicely.
Overall: an accomplished piece of genre-merging dance skill.
Shit, I did not see this one so sorry for the late reply.
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Your title is pretty much composition philosophy/technique - keep throwing stuff at a track and see what sticks and keep on going until you hit on a really cool riff, fill or whatever.
"
Not Exactly as I was very new to this at the time as I did it adn I really had no idea what I was doing or why I was doing it but it seemed to work when I mixed this with that and then with this I would mix that. It's my first post on looperman and one of the early tracks using Acid. It also was the genesis for me to start mixing genres, and that that was OK to do that. I should go back and remix this, but I think I will leave it as a monument like in a museum. It will remind me where I have come from.
Cru
4 years, wow, doesn't seem that long ago you joined. 2012 was a tough year form me so I wasn't around often, missed it on it's debut, sorry. Pretty neat track. I like percussion so when you went nuts with the bongos and shakers I was totally diggin' it! You constructed it as an evolving, ever morphing, juicy musical audible treat for me to play and enjoy a couple times to get it all soaked in before I could comment.
Still a nice debut, it was new to me today, he. Cool track!
Im sorry but enven your intro is great (liking the bottom end sounds) you still don't beat your Ottawa one.
I also enjoy this track since its a mix of many genre with that stategy you can make more favorite since more people will at least like 1 or mutiple part of that track.
finally I foud that funny for the intro to have a cute and innocent xylophone with a beast and a bit creepy bass sound.
Hey mon, I know that I will never top Ottawa for you so that is ok. I like contrasts in music hence the xylophone and the beast bass. My total goal is to make it all come together at the end with all parts.
peace
Hey Cruse i'm a fan of house music and you did your thing with this track with all the comments up here it not much that i can say that everyone else hasn't said so therefore hats off to you homie 5 stars on this one
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Ok, lets try to explain the unexplainabel
Disco is in my mind something fresh an funny, somekind of good vibrations and happy shiny people that dance in a friendly style and have a smile on there faces .... i think you know what i mean :)
EBM is more a bit darker, a bit more hypnotic, a bit more on a -stand around and dance in a standing way- with closed eys and some more "inside" feelings ....... bla bla bla :)
Maybe your -demon disco- fits real good :)
but i (personaly) dont have a demonic feeling at this track
cause demonic sounds so evil and i think this isnt evil at all, it is just a cool kind of disco music in my ears with a little dark hypnotic touch.
But who cares, it is just music. cool music. Nothing more, nothing less. And you played it all very very well my friend.
Respect for a real musican like you are one for sure Steve.
Hope that this helps to understand what i wanted to say :)
stay tuned
joe
OK Joe I get your Zeitgeist on this, but what does EBM stand for exactly? Electronic Bitch Music? Electronic Bourgeois music, Emo Banging Mantra's...that's what I wanted clarification on.
"it is just a cool kind of disco music in my ears with a little dark hypnotic touch."
I would agree with that assessment. Demon Disco is not a widely used term, and I believe New Order would fall into that category with Blue Monday.
"Respect for a real musican like you are one for sure Steve."
Thank you Mate.
to me Disco is more complicated and simpler than the fluff pop garbage we got served on pop radio from 1977-1980. There is T.S.O.P. filled with strings. Funk-Disco (White Cherry), Giorgio Moroder's electronic early Trance. rock disco fusion. Early House music. But the one thing in common with all those tracks and genres was a simple 4/4 beat at around 120bpm, that is all you need to be considered disco.
Bee Gee's were incredible songwriters and melody creators. For a period they still wrote great songs but just added the 4/4 beat. I heard Adam Lambert do a version of more than a woman, but in a broken down acoustic style that was incredible. why...the underlying song and melody is good.
Cru54
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Cru
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I must be insane... how did you know it? :-)
Hope all is well...
Ciao, Domenico
Steve
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Really slick production here bro. Totally dig your keyboard work, nice BIG wall of sound and the funky fills are a cool contrasting element to the orchestration. Very dynamic and suspenseful sounding track.
Great job. I dig it.
I am glad U enjoyed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hic-dnps6MU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYP6F3gX68Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6QGP0OUaV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tWyIug2qP0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA27aQZCQMk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib4-Lyxxyw0
All those songs contributed to the synthesis of this one. Thomas Dolby.. love his work. Hyperactive, and Close but no cigar are two of my fav songs from him.
nice comment my friend.
Crugracious
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Sounds a bit like a EBM sort of Disco (in my ears and or mind)
But thats a real nice thing!
I like this sound that sounds like someone should say -dis-co-thek- and that makes this track kind of hypnotic in a way. Nice speed, it's a bit a driving groove and stays a little in mind after hearing.
Did you play it all by yourself?
The mix is well sounding and the solo is in a cool wild style.
This is a sort of disco i realy can enjoy.
Well made
stay tuned
joe
" EBM sort of Disco " please explain EBM to me?
This is played entirely by myself. String stabs, guitar sounds, percussion, bass line. All me on this one.
I was going for a Demon Disco sound.
Cruditeck
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Compliments_____Orlando
;-)
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somewhere in the track hahaha. Goood job dude.
;-)
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Steve
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Anyways I gotta say man around the 1:30 mark where the piano chords and the voices and distant gunshots came in there came about a eerie and powerful feeling that gave me the goosebumps. Not many tracks do that. Then at the same time that transitioned to a more uplifting and bouncy tracks. It created this nice contrast.
Great job I really liked it!
I am deeply humbled by your response. My goal was to make a house tune that would stop people in their tracks and have to think about war.
Your comment about the piano part giving you goosebumps gave me goosebumps. That's what I wanted for this tune.
I appreciate your comments
Cruhallelujah
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Just to say to you that I've been trying to apply external thoughts/concepts on sidechain compression which I guess is very crucial in/at house genres. In other words I have tried sidechain compression but couldn't even touch that kick light/delight pumping as present on on your track.
Very cool one track otherwise!
Sorry for a comment in negative regarding to my efforts. I truly enjoyed listening!
Best to you, Alex
Steve
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I made a track in the middle of the 90's with the name - shutup and dance! - Right now i would love to say that loud to all this "War horny leaders and followers"
This is a nice one Steve. Didn't listen to it befor, cause it came up befor i was on looperman. So nice that you updated it and i see it :)
stay tuned
joe
Wise words my friend. Wise words.
I'm glad you got to share in the cautious tale of this one.
Cru
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Steve
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;-)
Cru
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Still good to listen . i loved the part after 3:50. nice work
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Cru
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Your title is pretty much composition philosophy/technique - keep throwing stuff at a track and see what sticks and keep on going until you hit on a really cool riff, fill or whatever.
Anyway: I like this.
Intro has a bit of fairground organ feel. That's what they play on the trance Merry-Go-Round.
0:07 much dirtier and then a bit of a music box type of melody and sound.
When that dirty top line kicks in 0:31, it all comes together, even without that much of a bassline. That is such a cool riff. What is it? It's quite a bit guitarey.
This has some of the dirt of grunge but it's very much a dance track so congrats on bringing those genres together - something I also like to do.
2:50 bongo grooves plus metallic percussion are good.
3:36 another synth with some cool movement and timbre, getting more intense around 3:52. shit building nicely before the next breakdown.
4:23 and it sounds a bit like a DJ changing record. Definitely at 4:38 as it sounds like a new track.
Aha my fave riff is returning but then drops out a little before 5:34 when another synth part takes over.
6:07 bassier synth moving about playfully.
Ending is too abrupt though I know it can be hard to do something else that fits nicely.
Overall: an accomplished piece of genre-merging dance skill.
"
Your title is pretty much composition philosophy/technique - keep throwing stuff at a track and see what sticks and keep on going until you hit on a really cool riff, fill or whatever.
"
Not Exactly as I was very new to this at the time as I did it adn I really had no idea what I was doing or why I was doing it but it seemed to work when I mixed this with that and then with this I would mix that. It's my first post on looperman and one of the early tracks using Acid. It also was the genesis for me to start mixing genres, and that that was OK to do that. I should go back and remix this, but I think I will leave it as a monument like in a museum. It will remind me where I have come from.
Cru
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Cru
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Still a nice debut, it was new to me today, he. Cool track!
Wayne
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I also enjoy this track since its a mix of many genre with that stategy you can make more favorite since more people will at least like 1 or mutiple part of that track.
finally I foud that funny for the intro to have a cute and innocent xylophone with a beast and a bit creepy bass sound.
like the title of your track keep it going
Peace.
peace
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Cru
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Cru