Hip-hop is not really my style but this sounds enough nice to me. A bit observation : i feel the drums a little too loud, sometimes suppress some other sounds a bit and for a long track, its not enough various to be a lead channel without the chance of boredom (and there is no need for use it that way, there is nice synths and pianos!). However, its just my opinion as a listener - it might be that sounds better now than with more faint drums.
Thank you. Now that you mention it i agree, i think the drums are a little loud and cloud some of the other subtleties. It's more like Hip-Pop than Hip-Hop haha. I will update the track as soon as possible. No need for apologies. I appreciate your comments. - Paora
love the chords. upbeat drumming. cheerful. happy music. simple, sweet. nice little touches here and there - like the bits of vocal chorus. do you think there could be more "presence" in the mix? is there a possibility you could "normalize" the track to bring it up? all the best. look forward to hearing more! regards - Dan
Hey Dan, by presence do you mean the 1-2kHz frequency range?
Haha yea i did notice that waveform was quite small compared to the other tracks on here so yea i'll normalise as soon as i get a chance. Thanks for the useful advice. Always appreciate that - Paora
Haha cheers. I guess i find the guitar and main melody happy sounding so i say its cheesy in a sense that i can't help but smile/laugh when i hear it. The drums are actually from loop i found on this site!
It's always funny to see how many different style the same 'pella may suggest to producers. I've used the same one in a totally different fashion. Very interesting!
Yes i have heard many different flavours of this pella. I thinks its awesome to hear other peoples interpretations of the same tune. Very interesting indeed!
I heard nothing wrong with your song my friend. for me, everything is on point. all you have to do now, is believe in yourself because everything starts happening as soon as you start believing in yourself. i love the song, big time. Salute!
Thank you Dolbrey =). Appreciate the kind words and faith in me!
We must all aim for perfection in our music though. Is that not true? We may not ever get there, but in doing so will hopefully get you very close to it! On the other hand, i'm aware there's also a fine line between a great sound and an overworked/over mixed sound and at the end of the day, each person will always interpret a piece of music differently.
Thank you for commenting I will check out your music and comment shortly.
Yeah, I feel King Crimson in there too. Every heard of Planet P? I think you'd love that band. Big hit some called Why Me? Two perfect albums - Planet P and Pink World. "Only You and Me" "The Strangers" & "The Shepherd" are faves. A true eighties synth master.
I like where yer goin w it. You have a good sense of off-beat rhythms. Maybe being all the way down in NZ helps isolate u from Diznee radio (which has sterilized amerikan muzak perhaps beyond repair) and gives you some opportunity for some original thought.
I think you'd need to do the piece using actual drums live to really hit all that interesting offbeat just right. But cool dude. BTW, I am also a fan of Katie! :-)
Haha no don't be fooled.. we get the same horrible music on most radio stations here, I just choose not to tune in. Oh too bad i can't play the drums hah. I agree though. Maybe i can randomize the drum hits slightly to give that human feel.. almost human lol. There are some Looper users that use really good drum samples in their tracks and it's really not that easy to tell that they're not played live. I need much better drum samples to work with, then maybe i'll dupe listeners in the future =). Thanks for the comment.
Oh that was hilarious. Very strange but ya hafta gamble sometimes to create something new. You should post the lyrics. Didja ever hear the song Three of a Perfect Pair by King Crimson. I think you'd appreciate.
Yes this song is verrry strange haha but i like ta be a little bit different. This one of the more weirder ones tho. Hey good call on the lyrics. I know what he's sayin cuz i've heard it a million times over, but i guess most wont pick up on them haha. No no never heard of King Crimson before. Shall check it out tho.
I'm surprised that you're not happy with this, as it's very on point! I only think it could use a little mastering, but the mix sounds pretty good to me! I really like how you used the vocals! Groovy song!
Thank you Spivkurl. I always try hard to get a great sounding mix and if in the end others think it's good then i'm content.
I've not listened to it for a couple weeks now and coming back to it, there's not too much i would change now =). I haven't done any mastering before... but i could sure give it a go! Just to complete the song and know that i've done all i can for this track at present.
dear Paora ,I had heard several usage of this pella of colleague Katiefrom various people , and think neither of them were such attuned true & like this considered harmonized & match with that acapella . very welldone it was & my Fav Mark tells the rest for U ... greatest respects & best wishes my friend.______Behnam
Thank you Behnam. After reading your comment i went and listened to some other tracks using the very pella i used and there are some amazing tracks out there! So it means a lot to me that you would say that. I did note that, FOR ME, a lot of them did not portray the meaning behind the lyric very accurately. Although musically, many created amazing tracks. I have heard the vocal a million times over creating this track so i'm quite critical when hearing it elsewhere =).
You've heard the term, "the artist is his own worst critic."? It's true. Even if the flaws are blatantly obvious, never give the viewer or listener a check list of what YOU think is wrong. Otherwise, that's all they will focus on. If you just present your work as is and let them take it for what it is, 9 times out of 10, no one will think otherwise. You know the kicks and bass need work, but Joey Baggadonuts on the street doesn't. He's going to think you meant for it to be that way and still like it.
Now, as for the track. It's great. The arrangement, chord progression, and vocals are awesome. The beat is great, and you seamlessly built around the vocals. But, like you've said, the bass and the kick do need some minor adjustments. But not much at all. The feel of the song along with the emotion of the vocals make it a little dirtier and gritty. Maybe some minor EQ adjustments to accent the high ends for more pop and a bit of a razors edge. (At least that's what I would do). Other than that...I really like it. If I heard it on the radio, I'd not only look into who it was, but tell my friends to check it out as well.
Yes i've heard this before haha and it is definitely true! Very wise words given here... i will not give the listener a checklist in future! I never thought about it, but you're right. When i listen to other tracks and they give a checklist i definitely listen out for those things. And i guess it's the same as when great musicians make mistakes playing live and carry on and work with it, most ears never notice and think it was intentional. Whereas, if they stop playing completely, people will know it was a mistake.
I think half the credit for this track goes to Katie for the amazing vocal. Thank you for the comments and tips. I worry about the low end so much i forget about the tops! I shall go away and brighten up the tops and fix the kicks.
cool thanks brillbilly =) i'm uploading an updated version tonight. Although i don't know if i'm happy with it. my mixing skills aren't very good. Tell me what you think. I've renamed it "Closed To Tears". Hope you like it.
Interesting project, wondering for the final version. It's funny how we took totally different direction starting from the same acapella... https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/142531
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Hip-hop is not really my style but this sounds enough nice to me. A bit observation : i feel the drums a little too loud, sometimes suppress some other sounds a bit and for a long track, its not enough various to be a lead channel without the chance of boredom (and there is no need for use it that way, there is nice synths and pianos!). However, its just my opinion as a listener - it might be that sounds better now than with more faint drums.
GJ!
Regards, traz
ps : sorry for my bad english
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on Sumassun - WIP by RampatheSwift
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on Sumassun - WIP by RampatheSwift
Haha yea i did notice that waveform was quite small compared to the other tracks on here so yea i'll normalise as soon as i get a chance. Thanks for the useful advice. Always appreciate that - Paora
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on Eyes Closed ft Katie Bregman by RampatheSwift
We must all aim for perfection in our music though. Is that not true? We may not ever get there, but in doing so will hopefully get you very close to it! On the other hand, i'm aware there's also a fine line between a great sound and an overworked/over mixed sound and at the end of the day, each person will always interpret a piece of music differently.
Thank you for commenting I will check out your music and comment shortly.
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on Its Purple by RampatheSwift
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I think you'd need to do the piece using actual drums live to really hit all that interesting offbeat just right. But cool dude. BTW, I am also a fan of Katie! :-)
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I've not listened to it for a couple weeks now and coming back to it, there's not too much i would change now =). I haven't done any mastering before... but i could sure give it a go! Just to complete the song and know that i've done all i can for this track at present.
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on Eyes Closed ft Katie Bregman by RampatheSwift
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I think these are worthy tracks using the same vocal..
https://soundcloud.com/miko-zamari/meke-place-for-two
http://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/143633
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Now, as for the track. It's great. The arrangement, chord progression, and vocals are awesome. The beat is great, and you seamlessly built around the vocals. But, like you've said, the bass and the kick do need some minor adjustments. But not much at all. The feel of the song along with the emotion of the vocals make it a little dirtier and gritty. Maybe some minor EQ adjustments to accent the high ends for more pop and a bit of a razors edge. (At least that's what I would do). Other than that...I really like it. If I heard it on the radio, I'd not only look into who it was, but tell my friends to check it out as well.
I think half the credit for this track goes to Katie for the amazing vocal. Thank you for the comments and tips. I worry about the low end so much i forget about the tops! I shall go away and brighten up the tops and fix the kicks.
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Would love to hear this when you finish it.!
Im liking what im hearing!
Keep on it man!
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