Mahloo13
Simple is not pushing me forward
Munich, Germany
Joined : 2nd Jul 2011 - 14 years ago
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Other users have posted 113 comments on tracks by Mahloo13
on Butterfly Effect - An Ultra Violet Apology by Mahloo13
Brado
That was one of the things I wanted people to realize, that when you are mixing a record you are not solely mixing it for your environment or for your monitoring system and that mix needs to translate well on everything.
Nowadays people listen more and more on earbuds, laptop speakers, portable speakers, phones, tablets etc. so it's really essential to get a balance that works on everything. How you do that? well...you listen, listen on multiple playback sources, use reference tracks etc., of course after a while experience kicks in and you basically know without crossreferencing if it sounds good everywhere. A good way to set balances (at least for me) is to monitor at really low volumes as that clearly evidentiates to me atleast what stands out and what doesn't.
As for the drums sound, I almost always add samples, even if they are really low in volume. I might add a kick sample that has more low end and one that has a nice midrange and some top and blend those with the original then buss those to an aux and eq them overall as one piece so basically I'm using the samples as EQ. The same goes for snare although I trigger just one sample which is really close tone wise to the original snare and use that to emphazise lows and highs and trigger a reverb, that way I get a clean reverb sound without all the spill. Sometimes if the drums are clean enough I'll get my samples from the actual tracks.
A lot of my sound comes from my EQ curves, I tend to boost a lot in the low end and the high end to get a really hyped EQ curve (the smiley face curve if you wish to call it that) and then compress and use another EQ to round off any edges.
The biggest secret is automation though. I use a lot of automation especially in the overheads and the toms and the room tracks. Recently I've started using parallel compression as well so during the chorus I'll unmute the paralllel compressed track for more punch...or I just duplicate the kick track for example and use the second track as a parallel track just for volume.
Sounds complicated but the secret is really in riding those faders and making everything exciting and dynamic.
Cheers!
on Butterfly Effect - An Ultra Violet Apology by Mahloo13
I also love guitar and guitar tone and I could probably spend days just recreating diferent amp tones. An amazing instrument!
There are definitely some cool tricks one can do with compressors especially if each is used for a specific purpose. Compressors are really hated on cause a lot of people missunderstood the concept behind the loudness wars and have since thought of compressors as something that's a no no when it comes to mixing. Compressing even overcompressing can yield interesting results and sonic characters. It comes down to experimentation really.
Thank you once again for the great review!
on Butterfly Effect - An Ultra Violet Apology by Mahloo13
The song doesn't sound over processed or too loud, I'm impressed for sure. Interesting how you processed the vocals. I use only stock compressors in Ableton and I notice how my songs compare to more professional mixes by not having more quality compressors. Or it could be mixing with my old ears, lol.
I'll check out the tut for sure. Appreciate you posting them as they help put new ideas in my head.
Cheers
The choice of compressors is irrelevant..as I've said many times the emulations just provide a certain vibe and allow me to get results faster as I already know what they deliver so it's easy to just reach for a certain vibe. You can pretty much get the same results with stock plugins, it's all a matter of getting to properly use attack, release and threshold controls on any given compressor.
For example to replicate this particular scenario you could ride the level of the vocals going into your stock compressor which would have a 3:1 or 2:1 ratio a slow attack and pretty fast release, while the second compressor would have a 4:1 ratio with a medium attack and a fast release and the third would be something like 2:1 for ratio and slow attack and medium release. Again you would have to listen in context and see how the compressors react from word to word and how they muffle or brighten the sound, it's all in the ears honestly.
I've always said it...it's not the gear that mixes the song...it's the engineer.
Thank you for the review!
on Butterfly Effect - An Ultra Violet Apology by Mahloo13
Brado
on Mayday Parade - When You See My Friends Cover by Mahloo13
Radio ready sound for sure.
cheers.
on Mayday Parade - When You See My Friends Cover by Mahloo13
on Mayday Parade - When You See My Friends Cover by Mahloo13
on Mayday Parade - When You See My Friends Cover by Mahloo13
Brado
on Mayday Parade - When You See My Friends Cover by Mahloo13
I never get sick of listing to a pro at work!...cheers Dave
As for equalization...I wouldn't necesarily advise you to go outboard unless you are working with great converters as you'll be basically running audio through your converters twice, once when you record and the second time when you send the audio to the eq and back into the daw. It will also make it mandatory to calibrate your levels going out of the daw. Software eq is perfectly fine honestly (more and more engineers are moving towards mixing totally in the box nowadays). Gear presents the ability to move really fast as everything is patched in but also introduces some issues, if you combine out of the box mixing with in the box mixing then you'll also have to take into account the latency that each piece of gear introduces. In the studio we have everything conected through a patchbay and each hardware insert stays on the same insert always so it's pretty easy to set up the delay compensation for each hardware insert so basically we don't have to do it always. Software eq is just fine believe me. I personally use a SSL channel strip plugin for most of things in a mix as I know the hardware as well and it's really easy to get it to do what I want. So all in all I'd say...save your money for something else :))
Great question by the way! If you've got any questions or would like to further discuss this/similar matters feel free to contact me!
on Mayday Parade - When You See My Friends Cover by Mahloo13
on KSE - Arms of sorrow COVER Ruff mix by Mahloo13
As for the Guitars...I use Amplitube, PodFarm and cabinet impulses or if available I send the di signal to a real amp and cabinet and record it with a combination of microphones, I really like the SM57 placed about an inch from the cloth of the cab and between the cap center and cap edge of the speaker and the second mic would be the MD421 at the cap edge placed of axis at the same distance as the fist mic. This gives a nice warm midrange and works really well with any kind of setup.
Easy really....if you do it all day :))
on Mayday Parade - When You See My Friends Cover by Mahloo13
The mix notes won't be anything fancy. Just a bit of EQ, compression and reverbs, delays. Working on arranging the files as we speak!
Feel free to ask if you've got questions!
on EW Playaround by Mahloo13
on EW Playaround by Mahloo13
on EW Playaround by Mahloo13
Steve
on EW Playaround by Mahloo13
The duduk I absolutely love and having listened to the real thing it just blew my mind. It's one of those instruments that just needs a bit of reverb and delay and it sounds incredible. Works great on dark tunes.
There isn't really a mix here, it was just a reverb and everything went to tape through a neve console. It wasn't supposed to get printed but in the end i'm glad someone didn't pay attention to what they are printing.
Thank you for the review!
on EW Playaround by Mahloo13
on EW Playaround by Mahloo13
Brado
Believe it or not I do work a lot with orchestra stuff as a matter of fact we are scoring an orchestral piece as we speak :D
I did a lot of stuff in chillout, symphonic, orchestra and movie scoes in the past. It's allways a pleasure.
on KSE - Arms of sorrow COVER Ruff mix by Mahloo13
Brado
For EQ it really depends on the genre, in this particular style of music I tend to do a lot of really narrow cuts at problematic frequencies like 4kHz, 5kHz, 700Hz etc. and shape the overall tone. I also might use de-essers on guitars to get rid of any harsh frequencies and multiband compressors to tame the low mids.
In general a bit of EQ does a lot to the sound.
If they sound good to begin with and I don't need to fix anything, I'll probably add some 8kHz to brighten them up and make them a bit more fizzy I guess.
on KSE - Arms of sorrow COVER Ruff mix by Mahloo13
I've never used stereo enhancers on this type of guitars. You can get them as wide as you want by proper balance.
If the guitars are properly edited they will sound amazing.
on KSE - Arms of sorrow COVER Ruff mix by Mahloo13
on KSE - Arms of sorrow COVER Ruff mix by Mahloo13
Brado
As for the vocal, as I've said....just Reverb, Stereo delay, and tape delay (slap delay)
-Malu-
on KSE - Arms of sorrow COVER Ruff mix by Mahloo13
Cru
on Full track for the upcoming tutorial by Mahloo13
Brado
on Full track for the upcoming tutorial by Mahloo13
I've been wondering how much to push the limiter gain on the master channel. Using Ableton, in the mastering plugin I use, it has a limiter. I notice by turning up the level on the limiter gain will push my nice mix louder but at the same time losing some of the tracks dynamics.
I know this isn't finished but how much do you push the limiter? Is it more just feeling out the track and push the gain depending on the type of music it is or is there a certain "standard" level where dynamics lose out and loudness wins?
Wayne
Sorry for getting back so late at you, for some reason I didn't receive any notifications about the coments.
Yes there is a standard for commercial releases regarding loudness.It depends on the genre of music or if it's for television then it's a totally different standard.
As for how much I push my limiter during mastering...well it depends. I don't limit more than 2 dB's. So basically I get 2dB's of reduction on my final limiter.
You could add a transient designer right before the limiter and it will bring back some snap into the mix.
One of the main problems with mixes that lose life when you throw a limiter is that they are not properly balanced and the limiter triggers all the time on transients thus killing your mix. Don't be afraid to rebalance once you put the limiter there, you do have that luxury. :)