Ella I'm so glad I got you thinking, this is beautiful, you have a great vocal, it really has a sade no ordinary love feel to this, your arrangement is fantastic I mention short lyrics well placed add character you don't need to go full vocal, something is better than nothing, creative originality, I would most certainly sit and listen to this playing in the background and a glass of wine with friends. I knew there was something about you, I've got a good ear and just knew there was more to come, you've done great in your short time, keep impressing lovely lady
I don't know if I'll do this again though. I can't sing that well, comes out all wobbly. But it was fun to do.
You are so kind Paul. I swear I had no idea I could even mix any good before since I didn't have any feedback to tell me otherwise. I'm glad I stuck around. It's helping me a lot in more ways than just music.
Hey there - lofi jazz feel to this one to my ears the first half is very nice and your little vox / phrase is really great - And Im not sure what it is but I feel the track really picks up another notch from about 148 on and hits it's straps in the last half. It's always nice to see the folk on LM experimenting and creating all sorts of varieties of coolness. Damn fine track!
AtticElla, on a roll huh? I've said it before and now again, your compositions are on point. This is nice, very nice. It reminds me of Swing Out Sister! Also, I like the musical direction you're going and flowing!
M.T.
Yeah lol, sorry M.T.. I've been meaning to pace myself but I literally got nothing better to do at the moment. Listening so much good music here in LM gets me inspired as well. I'm going to take a break now and let things marinade here for a bit.
Swing Out Sister! So many memories. That is awesome you think so.
Thanks again for another lovely comment of encouragement.
That Intro is killer. The vibe is amazing. I just enjoyed listening to this as a well-composed song. The analogue elements worked well.
¨'m having a sort of musical identity crisis at the moment and I don't know which direction to turn so I'm trying a number of things to see what works. Like throwing paint randomly at a canvas."
My advice to you this (not that you want it or need it), is to avoid trying to genre bounce, to appeal to the audience. but make music that you like to listen to. If it's good, an audience will come along for the ride. But at the end of the day, can you play your tune to and for yourself and enjoy it? I like doing different genres mainly because I become bored. And musically I like to listen to a lot of different things. This was a good tune.
Doing a lot of thinking about this lately. I find comfort on knowing what it is I'm working on genre wise, like a sense of order, a structure. I don't do it to please anyone. No one seems to like genres around here. If I were seeking approval, would I continue trying to categorize music?
I also become bored and genre bounce. But again it's just because of that, boredom. Ironically, if I had a wish to start pleasing people first, I'd switch to a more mainstream genre like regular Hip Hop, RnB, Rap or Trap. Doing house seems to be a niche experience lately and that is the genre that's closest to my heart other than techno. Maybe I'll do some techno next =P
Also, if I were trying to appeal the audience, I'd be putting vocals on all my tracks, it seems. I like to use vocals, don't get me wrong. I have plenty of music with vocals. I just like my instrumentals as well.
So sorry for the long rant. Just had it in my head and wanted it out lol. I truly appreciate your kind comment crucethus. Your feedback is invaluable. Thanks for the listen. =D
the 'swing' kinda threw me off at first, as the snare/clap sounded off-beat to me in the first few seconds lol.
Nonetheless, very well done. Your choice of Instrumentation/Arrangement creates a mellow Soundscape that has an analog-type warmth to it :)
It reminded me of 'hello meteor - obsidian game'. You should check it out, i'm pretty sure that you will like the track & the artist behind it.
Hey zonkymob. That 'swing' is supposed to be a hip hop groove according to ableton live. The off-beat bits are done on purpose. I've heard that technique used in a number of tunes. I guess not everyone finds it interesting.
I'm having a sort of musical identity crisis at the moment and I don't know which direction to turn so I'm trying a number of things to see what works. Like throwing paint randomly at a canvas.
I checked out hello meteor and they are fantastic! Thank you so much for pointing me to them. I don't know if I'm so good at the hip hop thing, maybe I try this style next.
Yes, isn't that amazing? It's the same as the appeal to produce with analog gear. The digital world can only barely approximate that beautiful warmth. But, for some of us, that's the best we can do.
Thank you so much for taking the time to listen and for the nice comments. It made me very happy to see that you liked my tune. :D
Attic this is a lovely lo-fi piece, beautiful sound, you've not been with us long, yet slotted in to the community seamlessly, like your tracks. I think you bring a female edge to the music if you get were I'm coming from. It's the calming relaxation of your style I like. Again I would like you to bring vox to your work, I don't know if you sing, but if you do, don't be afraid Ella, you can certainly mix so I don't think vox will be difficult for you even if it's somebody else's
dimestop, what a warm and charming comment. Thank you so much, it means a lot to me.
On these tunes I have avoided vocals on purpose because they are typically not used in this particular genre style I'm exploring but I might just try your suggestion on one and see what happens. ;D
Que gran melodÃa lofi, amigo AtticElla, es esplendido. Has hecho un gran trabajo. Me encanta como suena. Que tengas una buena tarde compañero. Paz y salud.
"I started making electronic music in 1999 with a program named Dance ej."
YESSSSSS I remember using that very same thing before I switched over to DAWs like Reason. I got my offical musical start in 2000-2001 with working under a label/making money at my hobby...
but my god Ella: As soon as you said Dance EJ, those nostalgic feelings came rushing up. I was 18 in 2000 lol.
Anyways, onto the song. I've become more and more partial to Lo-Fi when I've been studying/relaxing...sleeping lol. This is sort of a blend between Synthwave and lo-fi I guess?
The beat is insane, just the quality and melody/piano work in general is perfect lo-fi for me. I could listen to this on repeat for hours, and not even know hours passed lol
It was an instant fav for me. I think you should continue on with new Lo-Fi to add to your repertoire with your House music.
OMG Clay, you're kidding? You should hear the crap I made with that program! I still have some songs laying around somewhere. But to me, they where fire haha.
If you say it is synthwave blend, I'll take your word for it. I dunno. I just figured a lot of lofi tunes end up sounding the same, with same instrumentation every time. Not that I don't like that but it gave me an excuse to experiment a little. Hope it works.
Thank you for your kind compliments. It is so nice to get encouragement to continue on. I am working on more lofi tunes because I just love the style and I've forced myself to stay away from house for a while. Let's see how it turns out.
BTW when will you post that song I asked you about? ;)
well Ella?
We 65'rs can be proud on our selfs and there are not much woman of our age starting with this.
So we need to ATTACK LM with our music lol.
And who knows? Maybe you will be a dj on Party's 1 day.
Im sure you can with your experience from the past and your will.
If you dont use your bike for a long time you are a little insecure in the beginning but the next day its like you never stopped cycling .
For me its a great hobby and ofcourse i want to become better but the most importend to leave my music for my children and grandchildren as a memory 1 day.
Well Rita, I'm not quite sure of my "maturity" level hahaha. But, yeah let's attack LM! ... *rawr!*
And no, no djing for me. Even if I didn't think I'm too old for that stuff, I'm too afraid of crouds unfortunately.
I'm sure you'll have quite the legacy for your kids and grandkids. Hopefully it will inspire them to do the same. There is no better hobby in the world.
I honestly must have something wrong with my ears, because I listened to a bunch of different lofi songs and they vary in their degree of lofi "intensity"? But mine still sounds to me like it is in that general range. I've even heard songs that are of higher "quality" and still have that lofi flavor. It has to be a subjective aspect I'm sure, so I'm not even going to bother to change anything. ;)
But in any case, thank you for the listen and comment pseudoble. Really appreciate it. ;D
Well, If I understand what you mean correctly, in this style of lofi hiphop, fills, frills, cymbal crashes and such are used very sparingly if at all. Not even sprinkled effect hits. Listen to anything by Kupla on Bandcamp and you'll see what I mean. Kupla is fantastic!
hahaha im sorry madam.
Nice to hear that there are more madams who wants to create music.
Ok my english is not the best you must now but i want to ask you also something.
How long you making music?
I didd want to try Ableton but when i see how it works on youtube it looks like algebra for me so i will stay on FL.
And the last question...dont need to answer idf you dont want.
Are you the same as me?? Finding out on this age like my age (56) that
making music was something for me but whole my life i diddnt know?
Have a nice day madam and i wish you much plesure and succes with your music and here on LM
Rita, I did take guitar and piano lessons as a kid but never stuck with it so I was never good and finally forgot what I learned. My parents were both musicians. I started making electronic music in 1999 with a program named Dance ej.
My progress has been slow over the years, picking it up and taking long breaks in between. But I enjoy making music so much I could never stop completely.
And guess what? You and I madam where both born in the same year! And yes, I wish I had started a lot sooner. In fact, I wish I could go back in time to be a DJ like Charlotte De Witte.
I have to say, you do a fantastic job for having started on this last year! I'm impressed. Hope to listen to a lot more of your work on LM.
Pretty cool mix, it's compressed enough, I can hear all the instruments fine. The track has a mellow, sultry feel to it and some cool, textural elements in it. Neat tremolo effect on the piano too. Nice job Ella! Enjoy the Attic!
I'm not exactly in an attic but it's close enough. It's on a second story above the garage with a window in front of me so it feels like one. I actually wish I could have my studio in an attic and hence the name. I love attics.
Generally lo-fi isn't really my thing but I'm digging this! Making a really great chill atmosphere while dishes are being done. Really tasteful use of that synth flute sound!
I giggle to myself every time I read the comments and I think it's time to clarify that I'm a Madam just like you ;) I keep thinking that putting it in my profile would clarify things but no dice ha ha :D
But a million thanks for your comment Rita. Made my day!
I'm not going to keep blowing up the comments on this track.
This gist is, if you are simulating tape degradation how does a tape degrade? Usually, the highs get all scrambly, and the lows end up taking over, scrambling the highs every time they hit.
To simulate this, you are generally manipulating the master, using the information from the kick.
Here's one way to do it:
Run all tracks into a bus.
Make an additional track all alone for the "noise." Have the noise duck with the kick.
Run the bus, and noise, to another bus.
Put EQ on this bus to wash out some highs and compression to duck the mix with the kick (the noise gets a "double ducking")
Send this track to two separate tracks for separating out the highs.
Put a hint of phase on the highs (wobble). You could side-chain the degree of wobble to the kick for even more effect.
Run those to the master. EQ as needed.
Done.
That's one of many ways do tastefully degrade something. Your original take was very good... but you asked :)
Oh, and don't forget to distort the kicks and 808s (post any side-chaining) if you want your speakers to sound busted :D
*Quote "I'm not going to keep blowing up the comments on this track."
Yeah, sorry, that's why I asked you to send me a message, as in email, but I wasn't clear enough. But it's all good. You explained it perfectly. Will try it out. Thanks for taking the time. :D
Yeah, you knew exactly what I meant. It was too bright.
For reference:
tape fidelity is generally 30 Hz to 16 kHz
vinyl in theory could go as low as 7 Hz, as high as 50kHz, but that doesn't matter to me, I can only hear from about 30 Hz to about 16kHz (like most people). Anything lower than 30 Hz is pretty much a rhythm anyway. My jam band drummer's feet can technically play a "note."
Also a phone is usually about 80 Hz to 14kHz, so most of your listers couldn't hear the "brightness" we heard (it's also why most kick have ridiculous slap now). It's funny, the lowest "lofi" is everyone's crappy phone speaker, not tape or vinyl :D
In other words, watch out for reliance on gauges and meters. Your thermometer can tell a one degree difference in temperature, but all you care about is if it is "hot" or "cold." If it sounds like a phone playing a old digital recording of some degraded vinyl or tape, on your monitors and in nice headphones, then you probably nailed it.
Slicing some Hz off the top is a good "cheater" way to make it "Lofi", and did help the mix, but noise addition (brown or pink, and side-chained to duck with the kick with a long release), pitch wobble (manual or with a plugin), and other tricks will really get you there. You looking for tape or vinyl "degradation" not necessarily a change in fidelity.
If memory serves me correctly, slicing some highs has helped. I hint of side-chained mid-range noise will help more.
If you really want to cheat, try running the tracks through cabinet emulators (or several through the same one).
You certainly did open a can of worms. I did add mechanical noise, vinyl noise, and pitch wobble on the master and some separate but similar processing to the piano. Not sure what difference it makes to add noise at the master stage or as a separate bus if that's what you mean. But no matter, got plenty of info to work with. Thank you for taking the time to answer bringerofDOOM.
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I don't know if I'll do this again though. I can't sing that well, comes out all wobbly. But it was fun to do.
You are so kind Paul. I swear I had no idea I could even mix any good before since I didn't have any feedback to tell me otherwise. I'm glad I stuck around. It's helping me a lot in more ways than just music.
Thank you for listening =D
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M.T.
Swing Out Sister! So many memories. That is awesome you think so.
Thanks again for another lovely comment of encouragement.
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everything you used is in his place and the the little part on 1:55 is cool.
Great work madam!!
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¨'m having a sort of musical identity crisis at the moment and I don't know which direction to turn so I'm trying a number of things to see what works. Like throwing paint randomly at a canvas."
My advice to you this (not that you want it or need it), is to avoid trying to genre bounce, to appeal to the audience. but make music that you like to listen to. If it's good, an audience will come along for the ride. But at the end of the day, can you play your tune to and for yourself and enjoy it? I like doing different genres mainly because I become bored. And musically I like to listen to a lot of different things. This was a good tune.
I also become bored and genre bounce. But again it's just because of that, boredom. Ironically, if I had a wish to start pleasing people first, I'd switch to a more mainstream genre like regular Hip Hop, RnB, Rap or Trap. Doing house seems to be a niche experience lately and that is the genre that's closest to my heart other than techno. Maybe I'll do some techno next =P
Also, if I were trying to appeal the audience, I'd be putting vocals on all my tracks, it seems. I like to use vocals, don't get me wrong. I have plenty of music with vocals. I just like my instrumentals as well.
So sorry for the long rant. Just had it in my head and wanted it out lol. I truly appreciate your kind comment crucethus. Your feedback is invaluable. Thanks for the listen. =D
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the 'swing' kinda threw me off at first, as the snare/clap sounded off-beat to me in the first few seconds lol.
Nonetheless, very well done. Your choice of Instrumentation/Arrangement creates a mellow Soundscape that has an analog-type warmth to it :)
It reminded me of 'hello meteor - obsidian game'. You should check it out, i'm pretty sure that you will like the track & the artist behind it.
xoxo
I'm having a sort of musical identity crisis at the moment and I don't know which direction to turn so I'm trying a number of things to see what works. Like throwing paint randomly at a canvas.
I checked out hello meteor and they are fantastic! Thank you so much for pointing me to them. I don't know if I'm so good at the hip hop thing, maybe I try this style next.
Thanks for the listen! =)
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Again all I can say about this track is Brilliant.
Well done
Maj
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Nice warm timbre choices also. I like all the keyboard interplay, nice breakdown also.
Great work, keep it up.
Thank you so much for taking the time to listen and for the nice comments. It made me very happy to see that you liked my tune. :D
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On these tunes I have avoided vocals on purpose because they are typically not used in this particular genre style I'm exploring but I might just try your suggestion on one and see what happens. ;D
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M.T.
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YESSSSSS I remember using that very same thing before I switched over to DAWs like Reason. I got my offical musical start in 2000-2001 with working under a label/making money at my hobby...
but my god Ella: As soon as you said Dance EJ, those nostalgic feelings came rushing up. I was 18 in 2000 lol.
Anyways, onto the song. I've become more and more partial to Lo-Fi when I've been studying/relaxing...sleeping lol. This is sort of a blend between Synthwave and lo-fi I guess?
The beat is insane, just the quality and melody/piano work in general is perfect lo-fi for me. I could listen to this on repeat for hours, and not even know hours passed lol
It was an instant fav for me. I think you should continue on with new Lo-Fi to add to your repertoire with your House music.
-Clay
If you say it is synthwave blend, I'll take your word for it. I dunno. I just figured a lot of lofi tunes end up sounding the same, with same instrumentation every time. Not that I don't like that but it gave me an excuse to experiment a little. Hope it works.
Thank you for your kind compliments. It is so nice to get encouragement to continue on. I am working on more lofi tunes because I just love the style and I've forced myself to stay away from house for a while. Let's see how it turns out.
BTW when will you post that song I asked you about? ;)
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We 65'rs can be proud on our selfs and there are not much woman of our age starting with this.
So we need to ATTACK LM with our music lol.
And who knows? Maybe you will be a dj on Party's 1 day.
Im sure you can with your experience from the past and your will.
If you dont use your bike for a long time you are a little insecure in the beginning but the next day its like you never stopped cycling .
For me its a great hobby and ofcourse i want to become better but the most importend to leave my music for my children and grandchildren as a memory 1 day.
And no, no djing for me. Even if I didn't think I'm too old for that stuff, I'm too afraid of crouds unfortunately.
I'm sure you'll have quite the legacy for your kids and grandkids. Hopefully it will inspire them to do the same. There is no better hobby in the world.
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But in any case, thank you for the listen and comment pseudoble. Really appreciate it. ;D
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Thanks for the comment JackLake!
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Nice to hear that there are more madams who wants to create music.
Ok my english is not the best you must now but i want to ask you also something.
How long you making music?
I didd want to try Ableton but when i see how it works on youtube it looks like algebra for me so i will stay on FL.
And the last question...dont need to answer idf you dont want.
Are you the same as me?? Finding out on this age like my age (56) that
making music was something for me but whole my life i diddnt know?
Have a nice day madam and i wish you much plesure and succes with your music and here on LM
My progress has been slow over the years, picking it up and taking long breaks in between. But I enjoy making music so much I could never stop completely.
And guess what? You and I madam where both born in the same year! And yes, I wish I had started a lot sooner. In fact, I wish I could go back in time to be a DJ like Charlotte De Witte.
I have to say, you do a fantastic job for having started on this last year! I'm impressed. Hope to listen to a lot more of your work on LM.
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Wayne
Thanks for the kind comment theHumps!
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Sounds nice clear and clean to me.
Good job mister.
But a million thanks for your comment Rita. Made my day!
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Great work again.
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I'm not going to keep blowing up the comments on this track.
This gist is, if you are simulating tape degradation how does a tape degrade? Usually, the highs get all scrambly, and the lows end up taking over, scrambling the highs every time they hit.
To simulate this, you are generally manipulating the master, using the information from the kick.
Here's one way to do it:
Run all tracks into a bus.
Make an additional track all alone for the "noise." Have the noise duck with the kick.
Run the bus, and noise, to another bus.
Put EQ on this bus to wash out some highs and compression to duck the mix with the kick (the noise gets a "double ducking")
Send this track to two separate tracks for separating out the highs.
Put a hint of phase on the highs (wobble). You could side-chain the degree of wobble to the kick for even more effect.
Run those to the master. EQ as needed.
Done.
That's one of many ways do tastefully degrade something. Your original take was very good... but you asked :)
Oh, and don't forget to distort the kicks and 808s (post any side-chaining) if you want your speakers to sound busted :D
Yeah, sorry, that's why I asked you to send me a message, as in email, but I wasn't clear enough. But it's all good. You explained it perfectly. Will try it out. Thanks for taking the time. :D
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For reference:
tape fidelity is generally 30 Hz to 16 kHz
vinyl in theory could go as low as 7 Hz, as high as 50kHz, but that doesn't matter to me, I can only hear from about 30 Hz to about 16kHz (like most people). Anything lower than 30 Hz is pretty much a rhythm anyway. My jam band drummer's feet can technically play a "note."
Also a phone is usually about 80 Hz to 14kHz, so most of your listers couldn't hear the "brightness" we heard (it's also why most kick have ridiculous slap now). It's funny, the lowest "lofi" is everyone's crappy phone speaker, not tape or vinyl :D
In other words, watch out for reliance on gauges and meters. Your thermometer can tell a one degree difference in temperature, but all you care about is if it is "hot" or "cold." If it sounds like a phone playing a old digital recording of some degraded vinyl or tape, on your monitors and in nice headphones, then you probably nailed it.
Slicing some Hz off the top is a good "cheater" way to make it "Lofi", and did help the mix, but noise addition (brown or pink, and side-chained to duck with the kick with a long release), pitch wobble (manual or with a plugin), and other tricks will really get you there. You looking for tape or vinyl "degradation" not necessarily a change in fidelity.
If memory serves me correctly, slicing some highs has helped. I hint of side-chained mid-range noise will help more.
If you really want to cheat, try running the tracks through cabinet emulators (or several through the same one).
I hope I opened a can of worms... have fun.