Well, something a bit different from your normal busy, ancient tribal cinematic stuff.
This is also cinematic but with a gentle, calm, relaxing mood to it. No big tribal drums or strings!
Vocals are very good. They sound amazing 1:18-1:33. Those high notes sound very hard to do.
Pleasant sound design and the delayed main synth bounces around well over an icy, calm background.
My problem with the track for listening to for pleasure at home is that it doesn't really go anywhere, doesn't really build to anything more. It just sits - like a painting.
That's why it might be best used in a film to drive the emotions of the viewer. This is why I don't sit around at home listening to pure ambient music - I need the music to be busier and more exiting.
"Global Communication" has some lovely pieces.
psychedelics.
I agree with you, for example, I think music is the emotion of any kind of situation, I think that's why we write the songs, because it is a way of seeking to free expression.
anyway, I thank you for taking the time to listen to this track.
thanks for the support.
while I commented here, I listened to this album that you provided the link, and I'm traveling in the breeze. hehehe
All the best my friend.
You mentioned to me recently a 100BPM track so I guess this is it.
When the fat beat kicks in, it sounds like you're using some sort of dubstep kit. But not playing dubstep/brostep style - which I mostly do not like.
1:25 pause and high screech is cool. Then some megabass. It's now much dubsteppier but a good, throbbing rather than just all over the place craziness.
And at 2:05 you have your interesting melody and atmosphere that returns as well as your funky little bass so it's really quite musical.
2:43 drowsy lead
2:52 changes in note/chord that is a good bit of movement rather than dubstep wobbling about on one note.
Gotta bring that beat back in so you do. My only real complaint regarding the last section is that it doesn't really add much to the track. It's just a repeat of a previous section though it is good so that's OK. Just would have preferred some new element or new presentation of previous elements.
Overall excellent Great work.
Finally, here's my favourite musical performer and insane musical comedy genius giving you a bit of vocal-made d'n'b and dubstep. He's got way better stuff than this, including killer whole shows but I know you're gonna like this one.
Thank you for the detailed review of my track. I definitely appreciate that a lot! I guess you're kinda right about the second bass section, I still need to work on my arrangement a lot!
No problem - I enjoyed listening to it and would like to make more d'n'b. I'm not really sure why I don't. I seem to just be more comfortable working at mid tempo (80-110 BPM) rather than faster stuff ie 160-180 BPM.
I tend to do fast stuff just for certain sections of a track rather than have the whole track fast. I think I get a bit confused at high tempos and am much better at introducing good and varied grooves to my playing and more soul and funk when things are quite a bit slower.
I do particularly like your kettle drums, or whatever they were. Ah yes - timpani patches.
Yes, definitely check out The Prodigy's Their Law. As you don't know it, I'm guessing you maybe don't know that classic 90s electronic crossover group. They haven't really made much/any good music since then but I really recommend their Fat Of The Land album as a bit of a classic (though Their Law isn't on it). But they're still pretty big on the festival circuit due to their excellent back catalogue - music guaranteed to get a crowd moving!
And you did check out my track and liked it so that's good, for two reasons.
DnB can be quite a tricky one sometimes. I've had so many tracks that I started and then a couple hours later be like, this is crap!! haha. Im enjoying writing some 100bpm stuff recently as well, can get some nice grooves going at this tempo.
Yeah, the timpani does add an epic almost cinematic vibe to electronic beats which I like a lot.
Im very familiar with the prodigy I've just never heard that song you mentioned. The fat of the land still sounds fresh today, I love the song diesel power and of course smack my bitch up! There was a time when I went to the download festival a few years back and they were playing but when we went to go see them the queue was just too big, was gutted! Maybe I can still see them sometime in the future before they get old! lol.
Thanks static. that means alot coming from u as i know you are not one to hold back if you dont like something.
Wasnt sure about the drum volume so i guess that answers my question. Peace bro.
I like the fadein, where things are indistinct and then become a lot clearer.
Maybe have some sort of pad sound on top of that? Or some other lead so that the d'n'b fades in underneath.
Simple main keyboard line that works just fine and the drums sit well. Tiny bit of something like guiro there panned to the right.
Build and break just before 1:01 is a nice subtle touch and the track takes off a little bit more after that.
Good delayed piano (?) right at the end. Use more of that during the full track and let the delayed note spill out over the beat.
It's hard to know how to suggest you take this further.
But you could change to a different, maybe bigger bass later and move the drums more to the ride/crash. Those are just obvious things so not much real help there.
Good luck with it as it all sounds well produced so no criticism there.
Thanks for listening....
I have improved the fadein intro a little bit.
Going to add some new synths and piano variations or even a chilled electric guitar part in the middle where everything fades away and take the new synths and guitar part upto the sudden pause at 3.10....
And is the sudden pause good or should I make it more intense..??
You really do make some very particular, huge powerful ,mystical ancient music. Are you a fan of Dead Can Dance? You have something in common with me.
Groove here is awesome and so are those ancient chants. Makes me think a little of the Thuggee cult music in Indiana Jones & The Tempe of Doom (by John Williams).
Strings are melodic and powerful. Is that cello and violin together? Actually, it sounds like something else so I'm probably wrong about cell and violin.
Percussion changes on 1:05. The breathing noises and other short, sharp effects are very cinematic and moving.
Well done with this very professional cinematic track.
in fact, this instrument is the violin.
my source of inspiration was the trailer for the film "10,000 BC"
what makes me write these songs is The form of tribal percussion, I particularly like.
is a sense of action and reminds very ancient civilizations, it is a mystery that leaves us eternal questions.
your words mean a lot my friend.
Thank you for taking the time to listen
I am very grateful.
Hi. I don't know the original so it's a little bit hard to know quite what you're doing on this one. Probably just putting it through your trademark nomad swirling maelstrom dub filters.
As you said - you're not playing anything on this.
"Raggamuffin Livity through the rekindling of jahknow's Dub Guild."
I don't know what that means. You're splicing together two tracks?
Anyway - I liked it more on the second listen. Has it been speeded up from the original?
Maybe not - maybe just faster swirling drums added to make it more frenetic.
I guess it kind of feels like it should have some vocals somewhere but it would be pretty cool out live at a club. Or as a bit of soundtrack music as it's got some good energy and I could see a busy doing stuff/running montage set to this.
It probably lack for variety for my tastes and the final section after the last breakdown isn't much different from preceding sections.
But it's still good stuff so well done on your cavernous dub remix. I guess I should look up the original!
The Dub Guild is an anarcho-collective group of 12 artists originally brought together by jahknow who was an artist here, who unfortunately passed away in 2011. I've added the link to arkeyetexture's original track here, and those who follow the link will see the track is posted as a Dub Guild collab request. I've stripped three tracks from the original for my remix, and interpreted it with n0mad23 eardrums. There's a version of arkeyetexture up on Soundcloud that uses lyrics as well, so the idea you've presented is indeed a good one. I personally haven't done a lot of remixing of others' work, so this was really rather experimental for me. Cheers.
Hi. This is some fairly strange but also commercial-sounding stuff with some distinctive, weird bass. How did you make that bass part? You can really hear the strings. Are you playing it?
They're really not my sort of vocals but I understand lots of people like them.
One criticism is that the track doesn't really go anywhere in the second half. It's mostly just a repetition of what we've already heard. Adding in some other parts and/or changing the drums would probably help. Maybe try adding some busy wide hats to really give it a lift and make that groove really swing.
And I guess they're vocal samples and that's why they're mostly just repeated from the first half. So, doesn't really feel like an actual song but sounds like it should be. I hope that makes sense!
I have been a radio DJ(mainstream radio), so I know how to do mainstream. But I have for many years discovered a different reality that is so different and weird that most people don't even dare to think it is real. I also know the music industry is often used by the dark side, so that's why the track is on the surface mainstream, but but there is something creepy, dark and weird sound beneath it. The music explains how I feel about the mainstream music culture. Lady Gaga or Rihanna are one of the very dark ones incl. JayZ that flashes satanic stuff around. I'm not a Christian.
My agenda is to hack the mainstream.
The bass is just a VST that sounds like a real bass.
I think you are right. I should add a 3rd melody or change it(song structure).
Yes it is samples. RaRCharm only made the chorus and I had to make a verse.
Hi. This is cool. I don't actually hear that much d'n'b on Looperman (not sure why).
I like your kettle drums and would like to use more of them in my own music.
And it's good the way those drums build with the bass and then the funky flutey sound. Reminds me a little of The Prodigy's Their Law track. Do you know that one?
Solid d'n'b hats but the kettle drum low end makes this a bit different.
1:33 offbeat synth arrival I like. Funks it up a bit more.
2:06 new spacey pad minus the kettle drums makes the low end a bit cleaner and sparser though its fine when they return.
3:14 nice ending and a cool fadeout.
I could hear cello being on this and I think some of the lower end stuff made me think of low cello notes.
Good vibe that I like so well done.
I add small flavours of d'n'b into the many styles of music I make. Still never done a proper d'n'b track but will do someday. If you check my track Way Beyond Wrong, you'll hear d'n'b in there plus metal, hip hop, jazz, funk, banjo and saxophone in a crazy merger of genres and sounds. Here it is:
You really are one of the best and most consistent track makers on this site. More good stuff here.
Kicks off with a good, solid beat and then various keyboard and bass stuff that you always make your own.
Where are you getting these vocals from?
Sax I think is a VST and sounds good.
1:32 synth/wah guitar is bizarre but very cool and unexpected and unusual in this sort of track. Maybe it's Rob Papen guitar software. It's my favourite part.
Also some other guitar parts over the top, in addition to the pad.
It's all sitting nicely with those keyboard chords as the anchor but I'm wondering if it'll build to anything. No, have a drumless breakdown instead.
Then beat returns with a sax solo. Good, soaring emphasis from the vocals though I guess the track is pretty much the same as the first half. Might have been nice to make the drums bigger and heavier, just to make things more intense.
Fadeout ending is OK but perhaps you'll say it's crap and come back and finish it off in a day or so, as you did last time.
Overall, I certainly liked it but didn't love it. Maybe I was hoping for a bit more grit or edge or something. But it's very solid, groove-based, emotive chillout music so certainly something to be proud of.
Hi SN...you honour me with your opening comments and as I respect your honesty, thanks. The track in my mind as with the title was two people together and then one leaves thus the break in the middle. THe first part is a Gminor chord with a C to F bass whereas the second part is a Gminor chord witha D# to F bass thus sounding sadder. The RP rhythmn guitar was to indicate sex in a cheap porno sort of way! I need to learn guitar as a real lead guitar could have taken the second half to a more edgy finish as you say as VST's are really limited in range without staring to sound cheesy. The vocals are free samples from an online composing site called Soundation. The only change I would make is to add piano to support the limited note range in the second part between the sax and guitar.I do like the faded end in this one as it represents a disapearence into the distance. Thanks again
Steve
Hi. This is good work. That bass is awesome and pretty damn strange and dark. Makes the track stand out as something different.
Not so keen on that first piano break. Seems to take the energy out of the track too soon. Choir is OK but a bit of a typical VST instrument.
1:27 cool when that mega bass returns. Vocals sound good there. I think the track is probably a bit too loud so is a bit messy and maybe distorting in places.
Rap on 2:16 is really loud and bright and a bit painful on the ears but it's a good rap.
Overall, I think this is a good track and I'm not much into this sort of thing.
Must have forgotten to check this out a couple of years ago when I listened to quite a few of your tracks.
This has a hell of a vibe. Big, swirling cavernous sounds that should be blasted out a soundsystem in a desert. Or really just anywhere outdoors. But maybe not a in a quiet flower garden whilst people meditate.
I guess the bagipes mesh with the deep metallic drums to make something that is a bit like some sort of futuristic (Scottish) clan warfare.
I wouldn't call it dub but I'm sort of struggling to give this a genre name. The best I can come up with is Cavernous Tribal.
"public domain Morocco field recordings from the 1950's"
Maybe I should get some of that sort of stuff as it would probably fit well in some of my music.
On Soundcloud, this and a couple other track I have up as "Ethnic-Dub" which actually makes a lot more sense. I'm actually surprised I haven't been charged with heresy by the Dub Purists yet. I did try to approach this one throughout its development using dub techniques and philosophy - though it's debatable that replacing the mandatory deep bass riddim with bass drums still qualifies. Twas a Beast and a Joy to create.
Took me right to the limits of my skills recording mixes in real time with my APC-40 and the laptop's keyboard MIDI mapped with Ableton Live.
It is big, isn't it? It still surprises me on those rare moments it gets played by me, as it was done on a dual core PC laptop running Windows XP. Digital audio run-time environments have gotten really sophisticated.
"as usual your insight is helpful and challenging."
Thanks. I especially like to challenge people whose music I like. I want it to be even better! If I can help, in any small way, that's what I feel this site (apart from the free loops) should be about.
"a type of African drum"
Cool - I guess it's adding the reverb that makes it so huge.
"Rob Papens Rhythm guitar"
I bet it's great but I play loads of guitar and might feel a bit weird having intricate guitar stuff in my tracks that I hadn't actually played. Especially as I can sometimes play some intricate stuff.
Sorry to hear about the tinnitus.
First few mins of this sound great again. Fist half is a complete chillout track.
Chillout to rock transition now better and more logical. Very well done in such a short time!
Ending is much better and classier something along the lines of what I was thinking though I thought you might move drums to playing solid 2-stick hat pattern with just kick keeping time so no snare.
6:00-6:02 there's an awkward little crackly pop edit that I hope you can tidy up. Otherwise, no real suggestions for you as it's good additional work. I knew you could do it!
Well you asked for my analysis and suggestions on this so here they are:
The guiro is quite good fun and I don't hear it used much in electronic music.
Build up intro is good and the riff is simple but quite infectious.
0:50 good little delayed break.
Then we have the main beat, with everything sitting well and the infectious main riff continuing plus some extra percussive elements.
1:37 removal of main riff. Not quite got the transition right there. Probably should go into something bigger and better.
1:50 very nice, haunting little pad sound and the guiro is back and sounding cool.
Then you bring the main riff back and return to the sea for a conclusion.
It's well produced and I can't really fault any aspect of the production, which is a very good thing! You could play this right now as it is on a dancefloor and people would enjoy it.
But it's also definitely lacking some top level elements such as melodies and/or vocals. It doesn't sound finished and not like a full track, even though it's long enough to be a full track. But it is catchy so it would appeal to someone who likes providing vocals for this sort of style.
"can you please check this track and give me some hints about adding Guitar or vocals"
I don't know how to suggest you add guitar. Do you play guitar?
I'm sure I could play some guitar along to this though I'm not planning to.
Hope you can add the missing elements to make this a really excellent house track.
0:13 I like that cavernous door opening sort of synth release sound. What is that?
0:53 vocal was a surprise but there's a great timbre to her voice. And then she's back fro a second note after your strings have played some good melodies.
Low end also sits really well. What I think of as 'anchor bass'. Totally binds everything together and track would be lost without it (I tried as I listened on crap laptop speakers at first so got none of that bass).
So, these first few mins are some good, deep chillout.
Then we get to the second half, in which you must have spent a while scratching your head wondering if you should start a new track. But, a lot like my stuff, you didn't.
Guitar longer notes/chords are decent, in a supporting kind of way, but guitar really gets cool and funky on 3:53. Is that also a VST? Sounds played.
Decent drums. Not my favourite sort of groove but there's some busy kick and some good fills too. Rock section reminds me a bit of my stuff.
Fadeout ending is a big disappointment. Sounds too much like you ran out of ideas and couldn't think of anything better. But you're way better than that! So you should come up with a definitive ending.
Perhaps bring back your female vocal and really tie up the two halves in a nice bookend kind of way. Try combining long guitar notes plus a load of big delay, her vocal, that anchor bass and some steady but gentle hats and kick. Fade the drums out gradually and maybe end where you started.
Hi SM....as usual your insight is helpful and challenging. The opening reverbed sound is a type of African drum. . The funky guitar and the long overdrive chords is Rob Papens Rhythm guitar ...you should check it out...you are a right and wrong about the ending...to be honest working on the rock section was playing havoc on my ears...tinnitus in left ear is still screaming at me!So I kind of cut and ran! But you were right...ending was crap...also the transition was terribly rushed...the song was built in 2 parts on the screen and I took zero time sewing them together! I did like the concept of the chill to rock and as you said kept plugging away at it. I have had another go at blending the 2 parts and gave it a bit of a more gentler ending..I have also made the drumming less furious and more transitional in tempo. I've also left the fingered bass out as I thought it was fighting the rhythm guitar..I should spend more time on it but I'll have to stay off the head phones for a few days now!
Thanks again
Steve
"only the bass and drums are getting squashed the other sounds keep their dynamics mostly"
That's a good point and may well be why it works well.
"waterphone yes almost every eerie sound you hear in horror movies is made by one of these"
Yes, it is a weird, unsettling sound. But surely you're forgetting about the use of the theremin in movie soundtracks. I'd guess it's used more than the waterphone. I used it in a track about 13 years as I got a friend who had one to come round and make some noises with it, which I recorded. I don't think he could really play it at the time (damn hard instrument to play!) but it's still quite cool in the track, which I must open up again and improve, especially as my production skills have improved a lot in 13 years.
Yes, your track is of a type I recognise from late night aggressive-sounding dark club music. Powerful stuff that will do your head in a bit if you're having a bad drug trip.
I dunno if it's why it works well but it's why it sounds loud.
good point do you know of a good theremin emulation vst instrument?
There's tons of music that will do your head in if you're having a bad trip. Dark and aggressive music such as this is the norm in the underground dance music scenes.
Hi. Funny looking waveform you have here. Looks like a chainsaw!
Anyway, this is banging stuff. First drop and we're nicely into something that's also pretty damn chilled. Twinkly high stuff is cool and all those loops (3 or 4) sit so nicely together.
Beats are fat and classic. Quality melodies so not much to criticise.
Definitely some top level house for tracks I see posted on here.
2:40 nice new, bold piano chords in that breakdown. Of course it's going to build back and you do it really well. Moves just how a crowd would want it. I'm guessing you've been making this sort of stuff for quite a while.
Nice way to bring things down at the end and the final 'DJ headphone mix' of the track fading away works well too.
Yo. Being the nomad that I am, I can't help wandering about all over the place. Even when I can't be bothered, my legs sometimes just won't stop. And I doubt I've wandered onto anyone else's Looperman tracks more than yours. A fine subterranean sonic realm it is.
"not too shabby either, if I may pretend to have an ego. "
Damn right you can have an ego. I'm proud of lots of stuff I've made and you should be too (of yours, not mine - that wouldn't make much sense). Being proud of successes probably inspires more. I try to think of my tracks as if I were a fan of them and they had been made by someone else - which is my attempt at being objective and trying to hear what I've actually produced rather than get caught up in too many little details. And I do actually sit back and listen to my tracks. You know - for a bit of pleasure. Also, there are so many bits that I can't remember them all in my head so have to listen again to be reminded.
"This track involved a bit of luck, I believe."
Well mabe a bit though I fail to see where the luck is in your bass ability. Maybe you just continually fluke out with killer riffs. You're like the world's luckiest bass player or something. You're actually crap but pure freak chance puts your fingers in the right place all the time. You're going to be so busted when your luck runs out!
"fuck with the same synth parameter for two and a half hours just to accidently lose it by getting "click-happy".
Gotta be very careful there. I do very little hardware controller manipulation of parameters so tend not to change a setting without noticing (only to come back later to find the patch is now ruined and I can't fix it).
One way round this is to save in the same track folder a patch setting for each synth patch that's working really well. Then, if you fiddle about and screw it up, you can just reload that saved one and everything should be fine and sync up with any automation data you have going on. I also continually save new versions of the track I'm working on so can also open previous versions of the song to get settings that I've since screwed up.
P.S. Finally, I have cool band recommendation for you. The awfully named Maria Isn't A Virgin Anymore. Shocking name but don't be put off as they make awesome, alternative, intelligent stoner-related stuff with some Toolish/youish basslines. I think I just made up the word 'youish' but not sure what else I could have gone with. Sorry I haven't provided a link but will another time (if necessary). I bet you one cookie (not the silly internet browser trojan buggy thing version) that you love them.
And I'm back! Enjoying listening to this one again.
First thought, aside from the killer riffs, is how good the drums sound. So good you're not dependent on loops anymore. You've now got the movement and emphasis and a cleaner sound than you had with the loops.
But don't forget about them entirely. I still use them but as a sort of flavour rather than something I depend on.
No sure what you've changed since last time but there is really so much killer playing in here. It's a bit like one of my tracks but rather than multiple riffs and sounds being spread out across loads of instruments, it's really all just on one. Which is damn hard to do.
It's probably a genuine bass masterpiece (not quite sure how to 'prove' that)and I don't hear it as lacking anything.
2:07-2:28 I do not remember and suspect it may be new. I like it.
Winding down ending after 3:11 is great and probably new too. You're dong something that sounds fresh and different right up to the end of this very varied track.
Yes, if this is 90BPM in the DAW, you're definitely doing double time so 180. This is one track that really races away. Oh, and the distortions sound fine.
Surely one of your finest and I'd love to be able to come up with something similar.
And the Nomad meanders into the subterranean sonic realm yet again!
No update here, just a revisiting. One of my favorites, with Twisicles, FriedEyed&TieDyed;, and Weapons Of Mastication. Chopstick Showdown is not too shabby either, if I may pretend to have an ego.
This track involved a bit of luck, I believe. I must have been just high enough to be productive, and not so stoned that I sit and fuck with the same synth parameter for two and a half hours just to accidently lose it by getting "click-happy".
Thanks for the sojourn, next time I'll have cookies.
Aha - some good detail from you. Now I know a bit more about how you work.
Regarding drums - typical house drums can be quite boring though they can also be very cool and create an essential type of dance music. My last upload (Dance Motherfucker Dance) prominently featured a pair of house loops though I added a lot of other drums, as I tend to do. The new epic track I'm working on is a continuation of that last one, also prominently featuring that same pair of house loops. Plus lots of other programmed drums to give all sorts of variety.
I tend to use drum loops these days as more of a flavour that I add to and augment with the intricate programmed acoustic stuff. I think lots of people use monotonous drum loops because they don't really have anything else. You could get into the drum programming thing if you wanted as software such as EZ Drummer isn't really very expensive. And it's well worth it and great fun. I've recommended it many times on this site and some people have even gone out and bought it.
Yes, now you say it, I do recognise some of your synth work here as it's similar to some in the Nina Simone remix. Piano is a decent bass line but might be a bit too busy as a proper bassline when you get the drums in there so might need something lower that anchors things together better.
You ned to get yourself even just a cheap MIDI controller keyboard. I have done whole electronic tracks without playing any keys (eg Tiny Little Pieces) but it is often very time consuming and you don't get a chance to actually groove with the track.
I'm sure there's a lot more to come from your music over the years so you deserve a bit more gear. Especially the basic stuff such as a half decent keyboard.
Hi again StaticNomad!
Interesting tip about the drum programming thing!
But I think it's a little too advanced for me to start thinking about getting that kind of gear yet, I'm really just learning about the whole musicproducing process as it is.
And you would probably laugh or cry or both if you saw my working space and the lap top I'm currently using. My eldest doughter stumbled upon the cord once and the whole thing crasched on the floor, so the screen is..well you can't see anything on it.
A MIDI controller keybord would be a dream to have! But it's one of those things I'll have to wait to get, there are always ten other things that goes first in a family with children. =D
But enough of the moaning!
I'm on a little break from this song to get some distance and ”new” ears to it. You are right about that bass line, there have to be a proper and heavier bass line if I want this to be a dance track (which is the idea).
Thanks again for the feedback! I'll be checkin out that song of yours also, I think I've heard it onces and liked it but I'll check out he drums more specificly later on when I'll continue on this.
on Deep waters by Anubis
This is also cinematic but with a gentle, calm, relaxing mood to it. No big tribal drums or strings!
Vocals are very good. They sound amazing 1:18-1:33. Those high notes sound very hard to do.
Pleasant sound design and the delayed main synth bounces around well over an icy, calm background.
My problem with the track for listening to for pleasure at home is that it doesn't really go anywhere, doesn't really build to anything more. It just sits - like a painting.
That's why it might be best used in a film to drive the emotions of the viewer. This is why I don't sit around at home listening to pure ambient music - I need the music to be busier and more exiting.
Overall, well done!
Here is my favourite ambient album ever:
Global Communication - 76:14
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9kcXbQ1QW4
and my second favourite (but it's got more beats in it):
Funki Porcini - Weow (from the Fast Asleep album)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujMw857S8dE&list=PLkUGE6pVID-KDTBBqR3k8KIwhBaMbJPv_
psychedelics.
I agree with you, for example, I think music is the emotion of any kind of situation, I think that's why we write the songs, because it is a way of seeking to free expression.
anyway, I thank you for taking the time to listen to this track.
thanks for the support.
while I commented here, I listened to this album that you provided the link, and I'm traveling in the breeze. hehehe
All the best my friend.
on Zanbato by Diskonnect
You mentioned to me recently a 100BPM track so I guess this is it.
When the fat beat kicks in, it sounds like you're using some sort of dubstep kit. But not playing dubstep/brostep style - which I mostly do not like.
1:25 pause and high screech is cool. Then some megabass. It's now much dubsteppier but a good, throbbing rather than just all over the place craziness.
And at 2:05 you have your interesting melody and atmosphere that returns as well as your funky little bass so it's really quite musical.
2:43 drowsy lead
2:52 changes in note/chord that is a good bit of movement rather than dubstep wobbling about on one note.
Gotta bring that beat back in so you do. My only real complaint regarding the last section is that it doesn't really add much to the track. It's just a repeat of a previous section though it is good so that's OK. Just would have preferred some new element or new presentation of previous elements.
Overall excellent Great work.
Finally, here's my favourite musical performer and insane musical comedy genius giving you a bit of vocal-made d'n'b and dubstep. He's got way better stuff than this, including killer whole shows but I know you're gonna like this one.
Beardyman - "Drum & Bass vs Dubstep" a Do512 Lounge Session
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4mmjT4P6rw
Thank you for the detailed review of my track. I definitely appreciate that a lot! I guess you're kinda right about the second bass section, I still need to work on my arrangement a lot!
I've seen beardyman before, he is very creative.
Here's another good video of him on radio 1:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUKJA4UAruw
on Zanbato by Diskonnect
I really like this, especially the groove, and am surprised by the blend of sounds so am making it a favourite.
Much more detail from me tomorrow (not enough time right now) so a very short comment from me here.
Until then, well done!
on The Prodigal Son by srbrown7
0:15 that high flutey reverbed hit is too loud, jumps out too much. Same on other occasions though I like it.
First cool thing is 0:33 with a few layered cool sounds. Maybe pan pipes in there? You repeat later and it's a good little section.
Movement of the piano is good and this is quite emotive stuff and a bit like a theme tune to some film or other.
1:36 low end is cool. Adding that sort of sound is unusual for something sort of orchestral and gives this an extra, modern electro sort of stamp.
2:12 screechy weirdness and crunch later is also strange.
2:34 piano roll is nice and surely the kind of smooth playing I couldn't do (and maybe couldn't program).
To improve, bring down some of your loudest and sharpest sounds. Otherwise, it's a good emotive piece though I prefer your groove-based tracks.
With me, groove is in the heart.
Just in case you didn't get that reference, you now will (and you'll love it):
Deee-Lite - Groove Is In The Heart (Video Version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etviGf1uWlg
on The Sound of the Rain ft AnomalyJ by Diskonnect
I tend to do fast stuff just for certain sections of a track rather than have the whole track fast. I think I get a bit confused at high tempos and am much better at introducing good and varied grooves to my playing and more soul and funk when things are quite a bit slower.
I do particularly like your kettle drums, or whatever they were. Ah yes - timpani patches.
Yes, definitely check out The Prodigy's Their Law. As you don't know it, I'm guessing you maybe don't know that classic 90s electronic crossover group. They haven't really made much/any good music since then but I really recommend their Fat Of The Land album as a bit of a classic (though Their Law isn't on it). But they're still pretty big on the festival circuit due to their excellent back catalogue - music guaranteed to get a crowd moving!
And you did check out my track and liked it so that's good, for two reasons.
All the best to you...
Yeah, the timpani does add an epic almost cinematic vibe to electronic beats which I like a lot.
Im very familiar with the prodigy I've just never heard that song you mentioned. The fat of the land still sounds fresh today, I love the song diesel power and of course smack my bitch up! There was a time when I went to the download festival a few years back and they were playing but when we went to go see them the queue was just too big, was gutted! Maybe I can still see them sometime in the future before they get old! lol.
Take it easy man!
on Primed by cosmicinfluence
Everything sits well and in time, key etc etc.
Drums are decent though they seem quite in the background and I'd turn them up a fair bit. Groove still works even with those low key drums.
Bongo type percussion is good when it comes in and an interesting change.
Bass is classic dub and I can't rally fault it.
Vocal samples work well. Brass is the main melodic element and one I like.
Decent enough length though not sure what else to suggest except a better, more conclusive ending.
Congratulations...
Wasnt sure about the drum volume so i guess that answers my question. Peace bro.
on Dreams Come True by AviatOfficial
Maybe have some sort of pad sound on top of that? Or some other lead so that the d'n'b fades in underneath.
Simple main keyboard line that works just fine and the drums sit well. Tiny bit of something like guiro there panned to the right.
Build and break just before 1:01 is a nice subtle touch and the track takes off a little bit more after that.
Good delayed piano (?) right at the end. Use more of that during the full track and let the delayed note spill out over the beat.
It's hard to know how to suggest you take this further.
But you could change to a different, maybe bigger bass later and move the drums more to the ride/crash. Those are just obvious things so not much real help there.
Good luck with it as it all sounds well produced so no criticism there.
I have improved the fadein intro a little bit.
Going to add some new synths and piano variations or even a chilled electric guitar part in the middle where everything fades away and take the new synths and guitar part upto the sudden pause at 3.10....
And is the sudden pause good or should I make it more intense..??
Thanks for the feedback..!!
on 10 000 AC- by Anubis
Groove here is awesome and so are those ancient chants. Makes me think a little of the Thuggee cult music in Indiana Jones & The Tempe of Doom (by John Williams).
Strings are melodic and powerful. Is that cello and violin together? Actually, it sounds like something else so I'm probably wrong about cell and violin.
Percussion changes on 1:05. The breathing noises and other short, sharp effects are very cinematic and moving.
Well done with this very professional cinematic track.
my source of inspiration was the trailer for the film "10,000 BC"
what makes me write these songs is The form of tribal percussion, I particularly like.
is a sense of action and reminds very ancient civilizations, it is a mystery that leaves us eternal questions.
your words mean a lot my friend.
Thank you for taking the time to listen
I am very grateful.
on You Are Not Alone by Zenia
I guess it reminds me a bit of Tori Amos and also a little bit of Joan As Policewoman, though her stuff is a lot more haunting.
Piano sounds great so there's not much to say about that and nothing for me to really analyse or suggest in terms of improvements.
Well done!
on Ramshackle Nanobot Tarantata by n0mad23
As you said - you're not playing anything on this.
"Raggamuffin Livity through the rekindling of jahknow's Dub Guild."
I don't know what that means. You're splicing together two tracks?
Anyway - I liked it more on the second listen. Has it been speeded up from the original?
Maybe not - maybe just faster swirling drums added to make it more frenetic.
I guess it kind of feels like it should have some vocals somewhere but it would be pretty cool out live at a club. Or as a bit of soundtrack music as it's got some good energy and I could see a busy doing stuff/running montage set to this.
It probably lack for variety for my tastes and the final section after the last breakdown isn't much different from preceding sections.
But it's still good stuff so well done on your cavernous dub remix. I guess I should look up the original!
on Radio Illuminati Feat RarCharm This Moment by radioilluminati
They're really not my sort of vocals but I understand lots of people like them.
One criticism is that the track doesn't really go anywhere in the second half. It's mostly just a repetition of what we've already heard. Adding in some other parts and/or changing the drums would probably help. Maybe try adding some busy wide hats to really give it a lift and make that groove really swing.
And I guess they're vocal samples and that's why they're mostly just repeated from the first half. So, doesn't really feel like an actual song but sounds like it should be. I hope that makes sense!
You really do like huge kick drums.
My agenda is to hack the mainstream.
The bass is just a VST that sounds like a real bass.
I think you are right. I should add a 3rd melody or change it(song structure).
Yes it is samples. RaRCharm only made the chorus and I had to make a verse.
on The Sound of the Rain ft AnomalyJ by Diskonnect
I like your kettle drums and would like to use more of them in my own music.
And it's good the way those drums build with the bass and then the funky flutey sound. Reminds me a little of The Prodigy's Their Law track. Do you know that one?
Solid d'n'b hats but the kettle drum low end makes this a bit different.
1:33 offbeat synth arrival I like. Funks it up a bit more.
2:06 new spacey pad minus the kettle drums makes the low end a bit cleaner and sparser though its fine when they return.
3:14 nice ending and a cool fadeout.
I could hear cello being on this and I think some of the lower end stuff made me think of low cello notes.
Good vibe that I like so well done.
I add small flavours of d'n'b into the many styles of music I make. Still never done a proper d'n'b track but will do someday. If you check my track Way Beyond Wrong, you'll hear d'n'b in there plus metal, hip hop, jazz, funk, banjo and saxophone in a crazy merger of genres and sounds. Here it is:
https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/145971
on Long Distance Lover by srbrown7
Kicks off with a good, solid beat and then various keyboard and bass stuff that you always make your own.
Where are you getting these vocals from?
Sax I think is a VST and sounds good.
1:32 synth/wah guitar is bizarre but very cool and unexpected and unusual in this sort of track. Maybe it's Rob Papen guitar software. It's my favourite part.
Also some other guitar parts over the top, in addition to the pad.
It's all sitting nicely with those keyboard chords as the anchor but I'm wondering if it'll build to anything. No, have a drumless breakdown instead.
Then beat returns with a sax solo. Good, soaring emphasis from the vocals though I guess the track is pretty much the same as the first half. Might have been nice to make the drums bigger and heavier, just to make things more intense.
Fadeout ending is OK but perhaps you'll say it's crap and come back and finish it off in a day or so, as you did last time.
Overall, I certainly liked it but didn't love it. Maybe I was hoping for a bit more grit or edge or something. But it's very solid, groove-based, emotive chillout music so certainly something to be proud of.
Steve
on Radio Illuminati feat Rarcharm JC Da Kid Rewind by radioilluminati
Not so keen on that first piano break. Seems to take the energy out of the track too soon. Choir is OK but a bit of a typical VST instrument.
1:27 cool when that mega bass returns. Vocals sound good there. I think the track is probably a bit too loud so is a bit messy and maybe distorting in places.
Rap on 2:16 is really loud and bright and a bit painful on the ears but it's a good rap.
Overall, I think this is a good track and I'm not much into this sort of thing.
I'm not sure, if it is distorted.
I push the sound to the limit and play the track without limiter etc. and make sure it is played around -6db, before I turn the limiter up again.
The kick has an extremely distorted compressed sound. It was made like that on purpose.
I will pay more attention to the levels next time..
on Dancing with the Carnival Rebellion feat Nuada by n0mad23
This has a hell of a vibe. Big, swirling cavernous sounds that should be blasted out a soundsystem in a desert. Or really just anywhere outdoors. But maybe not a in a quiet flower garden whilst people meditate.
I guess the bagipes mesh with the deep metallic drums to make something that is a bit like some sort of futuristic (Scottish) clan warfare.
I wouldn't call it dub but I'm sort of struggling to give this a genre name. The best I can come up with is Cavernous Tribal.
"public domain Morocco field recordings from the 1950's"
Maybe I should get some of that sort of stuff as it would probably fit well in some of my music.
Congratulations!
Took me right to the limits of my skills recording mixes in real time with my APC-40 and the laptop's keyboard MIDI mapped with Ableton Live.
It is big, isn't it? It still surprises me on those rare moments it gets played by me, as it was done on a dual core PC laptop running Windows XP. Digital audio run-time environments have gotten really sophisticated.
Glad you appreciated the piece. Thanks.
on Lost and Found v 2 by srbrown7
Thanks. I especially like to challenge people whose music I like. I want it to be even better! If I can help, in any small way, that's what I feel this site (apart from the free loops) should be about.
"a type of African drum"
Cool - I guess it's adding the reverb that makes it so huge.
"Rob Papens Rhythm guitar"
I bet it's great but I play loads of guitar and might feel a bit weird having intricate guitar stuff in my tracks that I hadn't actually played. Especially as I can sometimes play some intricate stuff.
Sorry to hear about the tinnitus.
First few mins of this sound great again. Fist half is a complete chillout track.
Chillout to rock transition now better and more logical. Very well done in such a short time!
Ending is much better and classier something along the lines of what I was thinking though I thought you might move drums to playing solid 2-stick hat pattern with just kick keeping time so no snare.
6:00-6:02 there's an awkward little crackly pop edit that I hope you can tidy up. Otherwise, no real suggestions for you as it's good additional work. I knew you could do it!
on Chasing Summer-Time by AviatOfficial
The guiro is quite good fun and I don't hear it used much in electronic music.
Build up intro is good and the riff is simple but quite infectious.
0:50 good little delayed break.
Then we have the main beat, with everything sitting well and the infectious main riff continuing plus some extra percussive elements.
1:37 removal of main riff. Not quite got the transition right there. Probably should go into something bigger and better.
1:50 very nice, haunting little pad sound and the guiro is back and sounding cool.
Then you bring the main riff back and return to the sea for a conclusion.
It's well produced and I can't really fault any aspect of the production, which is a very good thing! You could play this right now as it is on a dancefloor and people would enjoy it.
But it's also definitely lacking some top level elements such as melodies and/or vocals. It doesn't sound finished and not like a full track, even though it's long enough to be a full track. But it is catchy so it would appeal to someone who likes providing vocals for this sort of style.
"can you please check this track and give me some hints about adding Guitar or vocals"
I don't know how to suggest you add guitar. Do you play guitar?
I'm sure I could play some guitar along to this though I'm not planning to.
Hope you can add the missing elements to make this a really excellent house track.
Finally - interesting-looking waveform!
on 1 Minute of Shit Dj Stephan by djgallala91
Danke is right about the drums though I have mixed feelings about them.
Snare is totally awesome and that reverb is perfect. But the cymbals/hats are far too bright and noisy for me.
Low end on this is great too.
I don't really hear it as rock music but it is pretty damn far out. Reminds me more of The Prodigy with the way some of those synths move.
I must find a way to get that sort of snare sound.
Well done and I hope you can develop it and make it at least twice as long.
on Lost and Found v 2 by srbrown7
0:13 I like that cavernous door opening sort of synth release sound. What is that?
0:53 vocal was a surprise but there's a great timbre to her voice. And then she's back fro a second note after your strings have played some good melodies.
Low end also sits really well. What I think of as 'anchor bass'. Totally binds everything together and track would be lost without it (I tried as I listened on crap laptop speakers at first so got none of that bass).
So, these first few mins are some good, deep chillout.
Then we get to the second half, in which you must have spent a while scratching your head wondering if you should start a new track. But, a lot like my stuff, you didn't.
Guitar longer notes/chords are decent, in a supporting kind of way, but guitar really gets cool and funky on 3:53. Is that also a VST? Sounds played.
Decent drums. Not my favourite sort of groove but there's some busy kick and some good fills too. Rock section reminds me a bit of my stuff.
Fadeout ending is a big disappointment. Sounds too much like you ran out of ideas and couldn't think of anything better. But you're way better than that! So you should come up with a definitive ending.
Perhaps bring back your female vocal and really tie up the two halves in a nice bookend kind of way. Try combining long guitar notes plus a load of big delay, her vocal, that anchor bass and some steady but gentle hats and kick. Fade the drums out gradually and maybe end where you started.
Hope those ideas help!
Thanks again
Steve
on kill everyone by zombieme
"only the bass and drums are getting squashed the other sounds keep their dynamics mostly"
That's a good point and may well be why it works well.
"waterphone yes almost every eerie sound you hear in horror movies is made by one of these"
Yes, it is a weird, unsettling sound. But surely you're forgetting about the use of the theremin in movie soundtracks. I'd guess it's used more than the waterphone. I used it in a track about 13 years as I got a friend who had one to come round and make some noises with it, which I recorded. I don't think he could really play it at the time (damn hard instrument to play!) but it's still quite cool in the track, which I must open up again and improve, especially as my production skills have improved a lot in 13 years.
Yes, your track is of a type I recognise from late night aggressive-sounding dark club music. Powerful stuff that will do your head in a bit if you're having a bad drug trip.
Again, good work.
good point do you know of a good theremin emulation vst instrument?
There's tons of music that will do your head in if you're having a bad trip. Dark and aggressive music such as this is the norm in the underground dance music scenes.
thanks. Z
on In Deep by demostar
Anyway, this is banging stuff. First drop and we're nicely into something that's also pretty damn chilled. Twinkly high stuff is cool and all those loops (3 or 4) sit so nicely together.
Beats are fat and classic. Quality melodies so not much to criticise.
Definitely some top level house for tracks I see posted on here.
2:40 nice new, bold piano chords in that breakdown. Of course it's going to build back and you do it really well. Moves just how a crowd would want it. I'm guessing you've been making this sort of stuff for quite a while.
Nice way to bring things down at the end and the final 'DJ headphone mix' of the track fading away works well too.
Excellent work.
on Cryptic Council by Evisma
"not too shabby either, if I may pretend to have an ego. "
Damn right you can have an ego. I'm proud of lots of stuff I've made and you should be too (of yours, not mine - that wouldn't make much sense). Being proud of successes probably inspires more. I try to think of my tracks as if I were a fan of them and they had been made by someone else - which is my attempt at being objective and trying to hear what I've actually produced rather than get caught up in too many little details. And I do actually sit back and listen to my tracks. You know - for a bit of pleasure. Also, there are so many bits that I can't remember them all in my head so have to listen again to be reminded.
"This track involved a bit of luck, I believe."
Well mabe a bit though I fail to see where the luck is in your bass ability. Maybe you just continually fluke out with killer riffs. You're like the world's luckiest bass player or something. You're actually crap but pure freak chance puts your fingers in the right place all the time. You're going to be so busted when your luck runs out!
"fuck with the same synth parameter for two and a half hours just to accidently lose it by getting "click-happy".
Gotta be very careful there. I do very little hardware controller manipulation of parameters so tend not to change a setting without noticing (only to come back later to find the patch is now ruined and I can't fix it).
One way round this is to save in the same track folder a patch setting for each synth patch that's working really well. Then, if you fiddle about and screw it up, you can just reload that saved one and everything should be fine and sync up with any automation data you have going on. I also continually save new versions of the track I'm working on so can also open previous versions of the song to get settings that I've since screwed up.
P.S. Finally, I have cool band recommendation for you. The awfully named Maria Isn't A Virgin Anymore. Shocking name but don't be put off as they make awesome, alternative, intelligent stoner-related stuff with some Toolish/youish basslines. I think I just made up the word 'youish' but not sure what else I could have gone with. Sorry I haven't provided a link but will another time (if necessary). I bet you one cookie (not the silly internet browser trojan buggy thing version) that you love them.
on One Missed Call by BearAustin
Quite possibly a nursery rhyme or lullaby, if you know what I mean.
Then it starts to turn more into rock music as that drum kit enters. But the fizzing synth dominates so that's a it different.
Pull back the drums and get a bit more back into the lullaby as the vocals start. Nice acoustic guitar in there.
Quite a mix of sounds and genres in the first couple of minutes. I guess I'd have to call it prog rock.
I've seen your name on the site before (loopmaker, maybe?) but don't think I've heard any of your music.
I don't love the vocals (not my sort of voice) but they're OK and work well enough for this style.
I would just complain about the drums being so far back in the mix. But then I love fat grooves though maybe you didn't really want any here.
3:42 classy lead sound and sparseness of beat and spacious feel helps us hear it.
This is classy stuff that could be pretty popular amongst people into proper prog rock songs.
on Cryptic Council by Evisma
First thought, aside from the killer riffs, is how good the drums sound. So good you're not dependent on loops anymore. You've now got the movement and emphasis and a cleaner sound than you had with the loops.
But don't forget about them entirely. I still use them but as a sort of flavour rather than something I depend on.
No sure what you've changed since last time but there is really so much killer playing in here. It's a bit like one of my tracks but rather than multiple riffs and sounds being spread out across loads of instruments, it's really all just on one. Which is damn hard to do.
It's probably a genuine bass masterpiece (not quite sure how to 'prove' that)and I don't hear it as lacking anything.
2:07-2:28 I do not remember and suspect it may be new. I like it.
Winding down ending after 3:11 is great and probably new too. You're dong something that sounds fresh and different right up to the end of this very varied track.
Yes, if this is 90BPM in the DAW, you're definitely doing double time so 180. This is one track that really races away. Oh, and the distortions sound fine.
Surely one of your finest and I'd love to be able to come up with something similar.
No update here, just a revisiting. One of my favorites, with Twisicles, FriedEyed&TieDyed;, and Weapons Of Mastication. Chopstick Showdown is not too shabby either, if I may pretend to have an ego.
This track involved a bit of luck, I believe. I must have been just high enough to be productive, and not so stoned that I sit and fuck with the same synth parameter for two and a half hours just to accidently lose it by getting "click-happy".
Thanks for the sojourn, next time I'll have cookies.
on Troubled Minds Ft TheG1t by SeriouslyJoking
Regarding drums - typical house drums can be quite boring though they can also be very cool and create an essential type of dance music. My last upload (Dance Motherfucker Dance) prominently featured a pair of house loops though I added a lot of other drums, as I tend to do. The new epic track I'm working on is a continuation of that last one, also prominently featuring that same pair of house loops. Plus lots of other programmed drums to give all sorts of variety.
I tend to use drum loops these days as more of a flavour that I add to and augment with the intricate programmed acoustic stuff. I think lots of people use monotonous drum loops because they don't really have anything else. You could get into the drum programming thing if you wanted as software such as EZ Drummer isn't really very expensive. And it's well worth it and great fun. I've recommended it many times on this site and some people have even gone out and bought it.
Yes, now you say it, I do recognise some of your synth work here as it's similar to some in the Nina Simone remix. Piano is a decent bass line but might be a bit too busy as a proper bassline when you get the drums in there so might need something lower that anchors things together better.
You ned to get yourself even just a cheap MIDI controller keyboard. I have done whole electronic tracks without playing any keys (eg Tiny Little Pieces) but it is often very time consuming and you don't get a chance to actually groove with the track.
I'm sure there's a lot more to come from your music over the years so you deserve a bit more gear. Especially the basic stuff such as a half decent keyboard.
Interesting tip about the drum programming thing!
But I think it's a little too advanced for me to start thinking about getting that kind of gear yet, I'm really just learning about the whole musicproducing process as it is.
And you would probably laugh or cry or both if you saw my working space and the lap top I'm currently using. My eldest doughter stumbled upon the cord once and the whole thing crasched on the floor, so the screen is..well you can't see anything on it.
A MIDI controller keybord would be a dream to have! But it's one of those things I'll have to wait to get, there are always ten other things that goes first in a family with children. =D
But enough of the moaning!
I'm on a little break from this song to get some distance and ”new” ears to it. You are right about that bass line, there have to be a proper and heavier bass line if I want this to be a dance track (which is the idea).
Thanks again for the feedback! I'll be checkin out that song of yours also, I think I've heard it onces and liked it but I'll check out he drums more specificly later on when I'll continue on this.
Take care!
/SJ =)