It's the bonus track. Every once in a while a MP3 will be silent for 10 or 15 minutes, then something like this would pop up. Ahh the hey day of the CD...
Not a mess.
Hey, since you have the balls to sing I should send you a backing track or something.
Ha yeah I remember a few of those. Sometimes they were the best tracks on the album. Not sure I'd call what I do singing, specially on this one it's pretty flat in places. The whole thing was improv and spontaneous and only got done cause wife and kids were away and I got up to mischief. Anyway, welcome to send me something that would be cool.
Excellent production quality. Particia's vocals are on point, and therefore pretty fun to work with. Good musicianship all around. I like the waltz, don't hear them much because they are hard to snap in FLStudio :D
Definitely on point. I worked with a few acapellas and I'm constantly shifting or modifying and stretching or cutting, but not hers. Plug and play baby!
Sounds like jammin to me. Makin it up on the fly. That's the most fun way to go anyway. That that hat clamp is relentless. This is like some of that "dark jazz" from 2012ish (a tiny sort lived genre I wanted to bring back). Nice vox towards the end.
Nice bass tone. Great transition. Nice guitar chords and little riffs with the brass swells. Nice pleasant mix. Good use of compression on the kick (I'm assuming, it seems the master is ducking, but I could be wrong). Good use of subtle percussion throughout.
Nice melodic variation and use of harmony. Even though the melody was revisited it wasn't really repeated, which is difficult to do. The rock beat could've used a fill or two, but good work overall.
Gracias amigo bringerofDOOM por tu comentario tan amable, tengo un video en Youtube con el mismo titulo por si quieres echarle una ojeada, se trata de una bailarina. Que tengas un buen día compañero. Paz y salud.
Hola querido amigo, gracias por tus comentarios, he querido respetar en lo posible el villancico pero dándole una atmósfera distinta, más espacial, con mucha reverberación. Felices fiestas hermano. Paz y salud en el mundo.
You don't need theory to "sound good." You could sound good faster, but also gum up the works with too much education (rules), so it's a double edge sword.
I've memorized pieces of famous songs to memorize the "distance" of an interval.
minor second: Jaws
Perfect 5th:star wars
Perfect 4rth:here comes the bride
Watched the first video and was easy enough. Will be watching the rest as well. That is a good channel, definitely going to watch more of it. Thanks for the link bringer. She's got more videos I'm also interested in. Wish LM had a discord server. Would be so much easier to have these types of discussions.
So the chords that the layers creates in the beginning causes a major 6th interval (The B in NBC), which is super tastey. So, is the volume swelling automation, LFO, or did you mute the kick but let the compression keep going. It's the right degree of "ear tickling."
bringer, I might like some effects when I hear them but I have no idea what that would be called. I just punch in chords that I like from a vst like tonespace and chordz to help me out and work around it. I truly wish I know what I was doing music theory wise like you do.
So I either use filter sweeps or level automation. But if you are referring to the pumping effect with the kick, that is the lfo cutting off the instruments group with the kick. I sometimes use a compressor but I find I get more clicks that way than with LFO Tool. I'm sure you might have heard of the lfo tool vst.
Thank you so much for your comment. You always seem to lift my spirits. ;)
indeed you are spot on. And yes I was entertaining myself. I did do a full-length mix of the last third of this piece, but I am not yet sure If I will release it.
I like the stutter in the initial beat. Sound like some interesting swing values. Nice warm mix on all the instruments. I like the chops in the guitar part.
Excellent mix. Loud without harshness. Great bass line.
I see what you mean about the vox reverb. Baked in FX can be an obstacle at times. I wish there were more dry acapellas on here, even if it sacrifices "perfection."
Yeah, I find wet acapellas seem to work better for dance genres but for others it can be a bit of a challenge. Regardless, there are still a lot of gems that can be found around here from where I stand.
Thanks for the great feedback and fav bringer, always appreciated.
Nice ethereal sound. I took me a sec to find the beat in the intro, but that's ok. Lots of good use of delay (ping pong mostly I assume). Very nice use of what almost sounds like vocoder at about 2:25 in the synth voice.
Guess you get another fav. So did you release anything elsewhere or is this stuff just sitting on a hard drive?
I used to have a soundcloud page full of stuff but I deleted it in a fit of frustration lol. I just started another one. Besides that I haven't really 'released' much. Tried a few tracks on Bandcamp and it's a no go, maybe not patient enough. So besides a couple family members, no one else listens to my stuff.
Might as well be that way. I'm to lazy to 'promote' and too inconsistent to cater to an audience. I don't know, feedback from unbiased ears is hard to find and I'm a bit insecure about my ability, lacking that.
So, in short, yes... this stuff is just sitting on a hard drive. Sorry for the rant, but you got me thinking lol
Thanks for the nice comment and the fav, really appreciated bringer. Always nice to hear from you. And I'm really enjoying your lofi. Let me know if you get your stuff out on YouTube. Would love to see it. =D
Nice mid-range on the synths. Didn't expect that piano to come in at about 3 min, nice touch. I like the "breathing" of the beat, nice and complex in the 16th/32nd note aspects of the beat (depending on your perspective).
Your mixes have that super bright, 80s shimmer. Are you singing the harmonies, pitch manipulating, or both?
I like the hiss in the snare, like pressure released. Nice synth choice, bass line, and funky guitar licks. Tim Henson would call those "boomer bends" :P
Great lyrics. I'll be honest with you, I about abandoned drill due to the lack of compelling subject matter. This doesn't sound like poser bs. It's real :D
You've done a good job of reinstating my faith, maybe I will mess with your acapellas a little.
Very nice mix. The first note almost knocked me over. I like the vocal chops and ethereal use of what sounds like a reverb and delay mixed. Good arpeggios in the "computer: sounding synth. Nice note choices in the brass and pitch dip fadeout. Lots of thick mid range in the timbre choices.
I thought the bass would hit my subs more, but not everything has to have a layer of 808s :)
Gracias amigo bringerofDOOM por tus comentarios tan cálidos y agradables. Me alegra que te haya gustado. Que tengas un buen día compañero. Paz y salud en el mundo.
Very nice kick in the mix. I like the alternating chord progression, and then the keys layered over alternating at twice the speed (sort of, variations of the motif anyway).
Nice use of vox. It takes true guts to sing anything.
I can hide behind a sax or guitar all day, and feel truly apathetic, even undeservedly pretentious, but unless it's Karaoke Johnny Cash on the vox I shake like everyone else.
Excellent mix. Consider "fixing mixes" or "collaborative efforts" if you want break that comfort zone (that's what I had to do anyway).
I have to stop myself from layering too much sometimes. I love the psycho-acoustic effects that pop up doing that some times.
Trust me, I shake, and I don't know if it's just my voice or it's nerves or a combo. I never sang outside the shower before.
That's an interesting idea that I've never explored. I don't know if I'd be a good collaborator though. I feel really possessive of my tunes, and I'm a bit unreliable. But will keep it in mind. I definitely need to put myself 'out there' for reasons I won't get into.
Thanks for stopping by bringer. Always nice to hear from you and your ideas.
Nice music box. Took a second to find the beat, but when it came in is was crystal clear. Nice deep vox and melodic choices. Did you sing the harmony or cheat?
Very nice instrumentation and mix all the way through. Tasteful breaks.
Hey there, cheers for the listen and fav. Funny considering our wee conversation re trap genre. Well...I have sung some harmonies before but not on this one. However I did record two separate vocals (i.e. I didn't use a doubler).I used a harmonizer (aegean music pitchproof harmonizer) freebie. It sounds completely artificial if you have too much wet mix in it, but I tried to use it just enough to colour the vox. I guess if you weren't sure I may have been subtle enough.
Yes, isn't that amazing? It's the same as the appeal to produce with analog gear. The digital world can only barely approximate that beautiful warmth. But, for some of us, that's the best we can do.
Thank you so much for taking the time to listen and for the nice comments. It made me very happy to see that you liked my tune. :D
I'm not going to keep blowing up the comments on this track.
This gist is, if you are simulating tape degradation how does a tape degrade? Usually, the highs get all scrambly, and the lows end up taking over, scrambling the highs every time they hit.
To simulate this, you are generally manipulating the master, using the information from the kick.
Here's one way to do it:
Run all tracks into a bus.
Make an additional track all alone for the "noise." Have the noise duck with the kick.
Run the bus, and noise, to another bus.
Put EQ on this bus to wash out some highs and compression to duck the mix with the kick (the noise gets a "double ducking")
Send this track to two separate tracks for separating out the highs.
Put a hint of phase on the highs (wobble). You could side-chain the degree of wobble to the kick for even more effect.
Run those to the master. EQ as needed.
Done.
That's one of many ways do tastefully degrade something. Your original take was very good... but you asked :)
Oh, and don't forget to distort the kicks and 808s (post any side-chaining) if you want your speakers to sound busted :D
*Quote "I'm not going to keep blowing up the comments on this track."
Yeah, sorry, that's why I asked you to send me a message, as in email, but I wasn't clear enough. But it's all good. You explained it perfectly. Will try it out. Thanks for taking the time. :D
Yeah, you knew exactly what I meant. It was too bright.
For reference:
tape fidelity is generally 30 Hz to 16 kHz
vinyl in theory could go as low as 7 Hz, as high as 50kHz, but that doesn't matter to me, I can only hear from about 30 Hz to about 16kHz (like most people). Anything lower than 30 Hz is pretty much a rhythm anyway. My jam band drummer's feet can technically play a "note."
Also a phone is usually about 80 Hz to 14kHz, so most of your listers couldn't hear the "brightness" we heard (it's also why most kick have ridiculous slap now). It's funny, the lowest "lofi" is everyone's crappy phone speaker, not tape or vinyl :D
In other words, watch out for reliance on gauges and meters. Your thermometer can tell a one degree difference in temperature, but all you care about is if it is "hot" or "cold." If it sounds like a phone playing a old digital recording of some degraded vinyl or tape, on your monitors and in nice headphones, then you probably nailed it.
Slicing some Hz off the top is a good "cheater" way to make it "Lofi", and did help the mix, but noise addition (brown or pink, and side-chained to duck with the kick with a long release), pitch wobble (manual or with a plugin), and other tricks will really get you there. You looking for tape or vinyl "degradation" not necessarily a change in fidelity.
If memory serves me correctly, slicing some highs has helped. I hint of side-chained mid-range noise will help more.
If you really want to cheat, try running the tracks through cabinet emulators (or several through the same one).
You certainly did open a can of worms. I did add mechanical noise, vinyl noise, and pitch wobble on the master and some separate but similar processing to the piano. Not sure what difference it makes to add noise at the master stage or as a separate bus if that's what you mean. But no matter, got plenty of info to work with. Thank you for taking the time to answer bringerofDOOM.
on adrift by Zootman
Not a mess.
Hey, since you have the balls to sing I should send you a backing track or something.
Faved.
on Never Knew Featuring Patricia Edwards by doofus
Obviously faved. Sounds like pro work.
on Rockish by Jynxz
At some point I hope to meet in the middle, say,
1990 or 2030. LOL...
Thanks for your comments and listen TTYL...
PEACE...
on Didnt know it was the good old days until it wasnt by pseudoble
Faved.
on 2 dudes and a ditch - a Zootman Pseudoble Collab by pseudoble
Gonna have to fav it.
Keep it up.
I was very happy with this somewhat accidental result with Chris track and mine : )
His track really makes it what it is my opinion
on Nasiib by DijamMusic
Great work.
Faved.
Happy new year mate.
Many thanks for your kind feedback.
I am glad you liked it.
I really appreciated it for the faves.
Maj
on Simple melody for a dance by sirefox
Keep it up.
on Late Night Horror by HamedEmine
Good creative work, very "terminator."
faved.
on Noche de paz by sirefox
Drums are a bit reverb drenched, but I assume that is by design.
Nice job getting in the Christmas Spirit.
on doG esiarP by daniwavy
Nice beat.
on Full Circle by AtticElla
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDD4q9xd8Ac&ab_channel=GracieTerzian
You don't need theory to "sound good." You could sound good faster, but also gum up the works with too much education (rules), so it's a double edge sword.
I've memorized pieces of famous songs to memorize the "distance" of an interval.
minor second: Jaws
Perfect 5th:star wars
Perfect 4rth:here comes the bride
For example. Hope that helps. Don't overthink it.
on Full Circle by AtticElla
Nice work. Faved
So I either use filter sweeps or level automation. But if you are referring to the pumping effect with the kick, that is the lfo cutting off the instruments group with the kick. I sometimes use a compressor but I find I get more clicks that way than with LFO Tool. I'm sure you might have heard of the lfo tool vst.
Thank you so much for your comment. You always seem to lift my spirits. ;)
on Irrational Needs by crucethus
Nice sneaky transitions from one part to the next. I like the hint of shuffle in the beat.
I like that beep. The crashes are very "drum machine."
I love listening to music where it is clear the artist is entertaining themselves.
on You Trap Up by AtticElla
Excellent mix. Loud without harshness. Great bass line.
I see what you mean about the vox reverb. Baked in FX can be an obstacle at times. I wish there were more dry acapellas on here, even if it sacrifices "perfection."
Great mix. great track, faved.
Thanks for the great feedback and fav bringer, always appreciated.
on Recondite by AtticElla
Guess you get another fav. So did you release anything elsewhere or is this stuff just sitting on a hard drive?
:D
Might as well be that way. I'm to lazy to 'promote' and too inconsistent to cater to an audience. I don't know, feedback from unbiased ears is hard to find and I'm a bit insecure about my ability, lacking that.
So, in short, yes... this stuff is just sitting on a hard drive. Sorry for the rant, but you got me thinking lol
Thanks for the nice comment and the fav, really appreciated bringer. Always nice to hear from you. And I'm really enjoying your lofi. Let me know if you get your stuff out on YouTube. Would love to see it. =D
on Sojourn by HeathAlexander
Nice thick, dense work.
Faved.
on The Doctor by Micky
I like the hiss in the snare, like pressure released. Nice synth choice, bass line, and funky guitar licks. Tim Henson would call those "boomer bends" :P
Nice work, faved.
on LIFE Reference by natjamesworld
You've done a good job of reinstating my faith, maybe I will mess with your acapellas a little.
You are an asset to the genre.
Faved, keep it up.
on New generation trance by sirefox
I thought the bass would hit my subs more, but not everything has to have a layer of 808s :)
Nice work, faved, keep it up.
on Spooky Punch by randyrandomson
I like.
on Never Said by AtticElla
Nice use of vox. It takes true guts to sing anything.
I can hide behind a sax or guitar all day, and feel truly apathetic, even undeservedly pretentious, but unless it's Karaoke Johnny Cash on the vox I shake like everyone else.
Excellent mix. Consider "fixing mixes" or "collaborative efforts" if you want break that comfort zone (that's what I had to do anyway).
Keep it going.
Trust me, I shake, and I don't know if it's just my voice or it's nerves or a combo. I never sang outside the shower before.
That's an interesting idea that I've never explored. I don't know if I'd be a good collaborator though. I feel really possessive of my tunes, and I'm a bit unreliable. But will keep it in mind. I definitely need to put myself 'out there' for reasons I won't get into.
Thanks for stopping by bringer. Always nice to hear from you and your ideas.
on Not Waving But Drowning by Zootman
Very nice instrumentation and mix all the way through. Tasteful breaks.
Had to download this one, you get a fav.
on Midnight Stroll by AtticElla
Nice warm timbre choices also. I like all the keyboard interplay, nice breakdown also.
Great work, keep it up.
Thank you so much for taking the time to listen and for the nice comments. It made me very happy to see that you liked my tune. :D
on Next to You by AtticElla
I'm not going to keep blowing up the comments on this track.
This gist is, if you are simulating tape degradation how does a tape degrade? Usually, the highs get all scrambly, and the lows end up taking over, scrambling the highs every time they hit.
To simulate this, you are generally manipulating the master, using the information from the kick.
Here's one way to do it:
Run all tracks into a bus.
Make an additional track all alone for the "noise." Have the noise duck with the kick.
Run the bus, and noise, to another bus.
Put EQ on this bus to wash out some highs and compression to duck the mix with the kick (the noise gets a "double ducking")
Send this track to two separate tracks for separating out the highs.
Put a hint of phase on the highs (wobble). You could side-chain the degree of wobble to the kick for even more effect.
Run those to the master. EQ as needed.
Done.
That's one of many ways do tastefully degrade something. Your original take was very good... but you asked :)
Oh, and don't forget to distort the kicks and 808s (post any side-chaining) if you want your speakers to sound busted :D
Yeah, sorry, that's why I asked you to send me a message, as in email, but I wasn't clear enough. But it's all good. You explained it perfectly. Will try it out. Thanks for taking the time. :D
on Next to You by AtticElla
For reference:
tape fidelity is generally 30 Hz to 16 kHz
vinyl in theory could go as low as 7 Hz, as high as 50kHz, but that doesn't matter to me, I can only hear from about 30 Hz to about 16kHz (like most people). Anything lower than 30 Hz is pretty much a rhythm anyway. My jam band drummer's feet can technically play a "note."
Also a phone is usually about 80 Hz to 14kHz, so most of your listers couldn't hear the "brightness" we heard (it's also why most kick have ridiculous slap now). It's funny, the lowest "lofi" is everyone's crappy phone speaker, not tape or vinyl :D
In other words, watch out for reliance on gauges and meters. Your thermometer can tell a one degree difference in temperature, but all you care about is if it is "hot" or "cold." If it sounds like a phone playing a old digital recording of some degraded vinyl or tape, on your monitors and in nice headphones, then you probably nailed it.
Slicing some Hz off the top is a good "cheater" way to make it "Lofi", and did help the mix, but noise addition (brown or pink, and side-chained to duck with the kick with a long release), pitch wobble (manual or with a plugin), and other tricks will really get you there. You looking for tape or vinyl "degradation" not necessarily a change in fidelity.
If memory serves me correctly, slicing some highs has helped. I hint of side-chained mid-range noise will help more.
If you really want to cheat, try running the tracks through cabinet emulators (or several through the same one).
I hope I opened a can of worms... have fun.