Hi. I tend to write long, detailed reviews. Some people do not even reply and few give as detailed a response as you have so well done there. I don't really understand this. If someone's taken the time to discuss and analyse a track, you'd think the person who made it would have a fair bit to say in response. I certainly always do!
OK, I will check out “241543903 and Dark Messenger” but may only comment if I like it or have something useful to suggest in terms of improvements.
Yes, you owe it to yourself to do better than recording on an iPhone. I guess you mean using the phone's mic, rather than some proper add-on mic recording device (I know there are loads you can get).
"That was my first attempt at sidechains"
My production is fairly advanced, I guess, but I've still never done any sidechaining. I should probably get round to it sometime. Your attempt worked out well.
Metal bands these days all use bells? Really? You don't just mean the 'bell' part of the ride cymbal?
"That merger of metal-meets-piano-trance"
I don't listen to metalcore so was not aware of this but agree those elemnts can be a good mix.
If you'd like to check some of my work, I have a great deal of very long trips on this site (many are too long to fit on here).
I do a real range of far out, deep groove-based stuff incorporating electro, metal, jazz, funk, blues and much more. But for you I'd recommend trying some of the heavier trips. They're not metal but unusual mergers of various genres with a heavier slant. So, check these titles: Debt Black Hole, Lord Of Misrule, 28 Levels Above Top Secret, Zero Per Cent Proof, The Wrong Side Of Zero and Trial By Ordeal.
Must agree with Candelaria about the mix...I feel really sorry cause what we hear is a fabulous guitar work from a heartfelt musician, but you have to do stg with that mix...
I think that the keys are good idea but at the end too, for example...
All the best, Danke
I honestly don't see where the mix is wrong. Like I told Candelaria, I'm sorry I'm a teenage musician who isn't a record producer. so if the mix really is that bad, I apologize, and I'll take down..
Thank you for the feedback.. -Edward..
i'm an old fan of heavy metal ,but i don't underestand
what are those keyboard sound doing in the begining !
and then when your guitar begins i think mix and master has
some problem !
but your guitar playing is very emotional and aggressive .
really fine !
definitely you're american and that's your guitar .
it has a little bit of death metal vibe too.
just mix is really wrong I think !
this seriously needs a mix .
maybe you can find a singer for this if you do a
better mix.
1.With all due respect, “old heavy metal.” That’s why you don’t “understand” the keyboards. Look at bands such as Asking alexandria, attack attack, we came as romans, and many many many more modern metalcore bands. That’s what they do. I follow my inspirations in their footsteps, if that’s a problem, tough luck. I’m not on here to make an impression.
2. OF course. Right, my mixes are always wrong. First off, I’m a teenager. I’m not an audio technician or record producer OF any type. I don’t know what you’re hearing, but this mix sounds fine through everything I’ve played them through. My friends and family also think the same, So it must be your speakers or something. No rudeness intended.
Anyways, Thanks for the feedback, thanks for listening, and thanks for commenting!
Hi. I don't really understand the production process described here:
"all I did was learnt them by ear and put it into my plugins"
Anyway, I think this is good. I'm not so keen on that guitar tone as it's a bit weedy and trebly. Needs to be much thicker but what's being played is good, sometimes meshing nicely with the piano.
Breakdown at 1:32 is decent, as are the filtered drums that then come back in.
1:44 bass synth plods along nicely.
2:00 I like the break and the way the delayed drums (?) continue over it.
Isn't your main acoustic kit panned too far hard left? Or at least your snare. Seems to be that way all the time.
2:31 guitar gets rougher and it's all a bit muddy and indistinct.
Probably quite a headbanging freakout live but all to indistinct for me.
2:38 bell-like crash sound is cool.
So, I'd thicken up or re-record the guitar and definitely check the panning on the acoustic drums.
Otherwise, I think it's an interesting merger of metal guitar, piano, other dance-related synths and acoustic drums so quite a bit going on.
Hope this was somewhere near the sort of feedback you were looking for.
Hello, StaticNomad!
Let me start with saying, Thanks for the feedback. This was my first full-on production.
“Hi. I don't really understand the production process described here:
‘all I did was learnt them by ear and put it into my plugins’”
What I mean by “Learnt by ear” is this: The piano chord progression is D E F D F D F G. The only way I’d know this is by, A. The Newtone plugin, or B. learning the piano part, by ear, on piano. Which is what I did, and is the same for drums. Instead of having the drums and piano sounds that were with the loop, I had my own pattern which could be the sounds I preferred.
“Anyway, I think this is good. I'm not so keen on that guitar tone as it's a bit weedy and trebly. Needs to be much thicker but what's being played is good, sometimes meshing nicely with the piano.”
Well let me just say, this was my first time mixing a song that had more than 3 instruments. My dubstep song had only 3, and it turned out nicely. If you’d like, check out my newest upload, “241543903 and Dark Messenger” to see what I’ve improved or haven’t improved. I think my biggest fault with this song in particular is there are no overlays; no effects (as in reverb, etc.) or double tracking. Also doesn’t help the guitar is recorded with an iPhone. But I can’t afford a microphone at the moment.
“Breakdown at 1:32 is decent, as are the filtered drums that then come back in.”
This part is actually part of the second verse; I just felt that a build up would transition better than dropping straight into it.
“1:44 bass synth plods along nicely.”
That was my first attempt at sidechains!
“2:00 I like the break and the way the delayed drums (?) continue over it.”
“Isn't your main acoustic kit panned too far hard left? Or at least your snare. Seems to be that way all the time.”
I’ll tell you straight up; the panning for the snare and cymbals are horrendous. Let’s leave it at that.
“2:31 guitar gets rougher and it's all a bit muddy and indistinct.”
From 2:31 to 2:35 is an open note. Everything else is actually rhythmic. I don’t hear it as muddy; but still indistinct.
“2:38 bell-like crash sound is cool.”
That cymbal is literally a bell. You won’t find any metal band today without one, or who doesn’t substitute with the bell of the ride. It’s almost a cliché.
“Otherwise, I think it's an interesting merger of metal guitar, piano, other dance-related synths and acoustic drums so quite a bit going on.”
Now-a-days, that’s what metalcore bands consist of. That merger of metal-meets-piano-trance, it tends to be a good mix. You get the lightness (sometimes darkness) of the synth, with the brutality of metal.
“Hope this was somewhere near the sort of feedback you were looking for.”
It is. Greatly appreciated! If you don’t mind, check out my other track(s)! Have a nice day! (:
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OK, I will check out “241543903 and Dark Messenger” but may only comment if I like it or have something useful to suggest in terms of improvements.
Yes, you owe it to yourself to do better than recording on an iPhone. I guess you mean using the phone's mic, rather than some proper add-on mic recording device (I know there are loads you can get).
"That was my first attempt at sidechains"
My production is fairly advanced, I guess, but I've still never done any sidechaining. I should probably get round to it sometime. Your attempt worked out well.
Metal bands these days all use bells? Really? You don't just mean the 'bell' part of the ride cymbal?
"That merger of metal-meets-piano-trance"
I don't listen to metalcore so was not aware of this but agree those elemnts can be a good mix.
If you'd like to check some of my work, I have a great deal of very long trips on this site (many are too long to fit on here).
I do a real range of far out, deep groove-based stuff incorporating electro, metal, jazz, funk, blues and much more. But for you I'd recommend trying some of the heavier trips. They're not metal but unusual mergers of various genres with a heavier slant. So, check these titles: Debt Black Hole, Lord Of Misrule, 28 Levels Above Top Secret, Zero Per Cent Proof, The Wrong Side Of Zero and Trial By Ordeal.
No guitar parts were recorded on an iPhone.
on 241543903 and Dark Messenger by EdwardTaylor
Must agree with Candelaria about the mix...I feel really sorry cause what we hear is a fabulous guitar work from a heartfelt musician, but you have to do stg with that mix...
I think that the keys are good idea but at the end too, for example...
All the best, Danke
I honestly don't see where the mix is wrong. Like I told Candelaria, I'm sorry I'm a teenage musician who isn't a record producer. so if the mix really is that bad, I apologize, and I'll take down..
Thank you for the feedback.. -Edward..
on Trust by EdwardTaylor
it has a little bit of linkin Park flavour too ,
but idea is superb !
just there is 2 negative point or lack in this one too.
1_again mix is very bad !
2_heavy metal and rock , without lead guitar means
a salad without sauce for me !
this lack of lead determins grades of Rock and heay
metal in professional world .
you seem tallented .
i'll looking forward to hear more from you .
good luck.
on 241543903 and Dark Messenger by EdwardTaylor
what are those keyboard sound doing in the begining !
and then when your guitar begins i think mix and master has
some problem !
but your guitar playing is very emotional and aggressive .
really fine !
definitely you're american and that's your guitar .
it has a little bit of death metal vibe too.
just mix is really wrong I think !
this seriously needs a mix .
maybe you can find a singer for this if you do a
better mix.
2. OF course. Right, my mixes are always wrong. First off, I’m a teenager. I’m not an audio technician or record producer OF any type. I don’t know what you’re hearing, but this mix sounds fine through everything I’ve played them through. My friends and family also think the same, So it must be your speakers or something. No rudeness intended.
Anyways, Thanks for the feedback, thanks for listening, and thanks for commenting!
on Trust by EdwardTaylor
"all I did was learnt them by ear and put it into my plugins"
Anyway, I think this is good. I'm not so keen on that guitar tone as it's a bit weedy and trebly. Needs to be much thicker but what's being played is good, sometimes meshing nicely with the piano.
Breakdown at 1:32 is decent, as are the filtered drums that then come back in.
1:44 bass synth plods along nicely.
2:00 I like the break and the way the delayed drums (?) continue over it.
Isn't your main acoustic kit panned too far hard left? Or at least your snare. Seems to be that way all the time.
2:31 guitar gets rougher and it's all a bit muddy and indistinct.
Probably quite a headbanging freakout live but all to indistinct for me.
2:38 bell-like crash sound is cool.
So, I'd thicken up or re-record the guitar and definitely check the panning on the acoustic drums.
Otherwise, I think it's an interesting merger of metal guitar, piano, other dance-related synths and acoustic drums so quite a bit going on.
Hope this was somewhere near the sort of feedback you were looking for.
Let me start with saying, Thanks for the feedback. This was my first full-on production.
“Hi. I don't really understand the production process described here:
‘all I did was learnt them by ear and put it into my plugins’”
What I mean by “Learnt by ear” is this: The piano chord progression is D E F D F D F G. The only way I’d know this is by, A. The Newtone plugin, or B. learning the piano part, by ear, on piano. Which is what I did, and is the same for drums. Instead of having the drums and piano sounds that were with the loop, I had my own pattern which could be the sounds I preferred.
“Anyway, I think this is good. I'm not so keen on that guitar tone as it's a bit weedy and trebly. Needs to be much thicker but what's being played is good, sometimes meshing nicely with the piano.”
Well let me just say, this was my first time mixing a song that had more than 3 instruments. My dubstep song had only 3, and it turned out nicely. If you’d like, check out my newest upload, “241543903 and Dark Messenger” to see what I’ve improved or haven’t improved. I think my biggest fault with this song in particular is there are no overlays; no effects (as in reverb, etc.) or double tracking. Also doesn’t help the guitar is recorded with an iPhone. But I can’t afford a microphone at the moment.
“Breakdown at 1:32 is decent, as are the filtered drums that then come back in.”
This part is actually part of the second verse; I just felt that a build up would transition better than dropping straight into it.
“1:44 bass synth plods along nicely.”
That was my first attempt at sidechains!
“2:00 I like the break and the way the delayed drums (?) continue over it.”
“Isn't your main acoustic kit panned too far hard left? Or at least your snare. Seems to be that way all the time.”
I’ll tell you straight up; the panning for the snare and cymbals are horrendous. Let’s leave it at that.
“2:31 guitar gets rougher and it's all a bit muddy and indistinct.”
From 2:31 to 2:35 is an open note. Everything else is actually rhythmic. I don’t hear it as muddy; but still indistinct.
“2:38 bell-like crash sound is cool.”
That cymbal is literally a bell. You won’t find any metal band today without one, or who doesn’t substitute with the bell of the ride. It’s almost a cliché.
“Otherwise, I think it's an interesting merger of metal guitar, piano, other dance-related synths and acoustic drums so quite a bit going on.”
Now-a-days, that’s what metalcore bands consist of. That merger of metal-meets-piano-trance, it tends to be a good mix. You get the lightness (sometimes darkness) of the synth, with the brutality of metal.
“Hope this was somewhere near the sort of feedback you were looking for.”
It is. Greatly appreciated! If you don’t mind, check out my other track(s)! Have a nice day! (:
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