So, you want the swing value to be the same for every instrument, and you want it to be for the 8th notes. It would be easy to attach a swing value and never hear it, because the tempo is doubled and the swing value is attached to the 16th note instead (relative to the song, not the DAW settings).
If you have no syncopated 16th notes, you won't hear any swing (though it that case, technically it would be a shuffle, which is a swing value applied to the 16th notes.)
Almost all DAWs tend to double the BPM. For instance, FLStudios default is 140 BPM, but most trap is really 70 BPM (when you consider the actual phrasing), folks just don't like thinking about 32nd notes (the hats) because it blows their mind, so doubling the tempo and making less time increments is simpler, even though it leads to expression issues later, for instance when attaching a swing value in the wrong increment, as well as shorter phrases and smaller more repetitive loops.
To experiment, start with only drums and vox, line it up via swing percentage, then apply the lined up value (8th note swing%) to the remaining instruments. I've experimented with multiple swing values per instrument, but it was pretty much a mess. A single value for everything works better. I also tend to perform the parts and leave them unquantized, giving them both a natural swing value and some tasteful "inaccuracy."
It took me a long time to realize what swing even was. I had always though of it as a triplet feel, but it's really the potential space between a triplet feel (33%) and "straight 8" (0%), or the shuffle (19 beat) equivalent. Swing values are what makes boombap and reggae so good, especially when you remove the first beat from the phrase on occasion.
Hope that wasn't too much info, just some food for thought.
Nice little project. Most won't know the difference unless they know the song. You might consider adding a swing value to the beat. I noticed if you match the swing value to the rappers flow it can make a big difference in the feel of the mix (in this case somewhere between 22 and 27% should work).
This is the second time I've heard you mention adding some swing to the track..well, since I still had this session open I gave it a shot at 27% on just the drum track..
I don't know if I'm really hearing a difference..or I just believe I do..I know 27% is very a subtle change, but thx for the tip.
Grrrreat! You just can't sit still. A drum sound like that in this intro is really awesome, it nails the track to the ground. You know very well what you are doing and you absolutely know your stuff. Hats off!
OMG! I closed my eyes listening to this WOWW! Maestro, this is SUPREME!!! A magnificent! composition indeed. Your work quite frankly is on another level, There Ain't nobody drop it like BM4real for real, just saying.
Hip Hop is truly alive!& well the way you drop it. Floored! by the BEAUTY! of this. You are simply one of a kind. This is PURE GOLD! Salute!
Okay here comes my comment. Everyone brace yourselves! LOL! Nah, this beat is great! This is a JDilla/DJ premiere love child. Solid track. 10/10. Favorite. Good job Beatmaker the beat breaker.
Drum beat is kickin! I like how the wave format looks. Dope right here!
My kinda pace! Was that chimes at that pause? Creative man 2.34 change in the kik was brilliant
brilliant, bloody brilliant ... that groovy with that bass guitar is fabulous ... you always make top tracks but this one is a hit (with or without the speech)
hats off, Danke
How do you get the bass and keys to work so well with them being almost in same freq ? as you have noticed on my last track i could not get bass to stand out i ended it up with a beez hive sound lol
Not looking at the session now, but rolling off other instruments from your low end freq's and eq the mids for clarity could help with that, and adding some distortion to that bass to make it cut thru the mix.Sidechaining with compression and distortion and eq chain.
BeatMaker again you impress me, yes your music is delightfully melodic, for singer-song writers, you are a dream, it had me chomping again, but as im learning how to use my new set up properly and reading Angels comment, im hoping she will bring a vocal to this, another great listen mate, keep it up
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If you have no syncopated 16th notes, you won't hear any swing (though it that case, technically it would be a shuffle, which is a swing value applied to the 16th notes.)
Almost all DAWs tend to double the BPM. For instance, FLStudios default is 140 BPM, but most trap is really 70 BPM (when you consider the actual phrasing), folks just don't like thinking about 32nd notes (the hats) because it blows their mind, so doubling the tempo and making less time increments is simpler, even though it leads to expression issues later, for instance when attaching a swing value in the wrong increment, as well as shorter phrases and smaller more repetitive loops.
To experiment, start with only drums and vox, line it up via swing percentage, then apply the lined up value (8th note swing%) to the remaining instruments. I've experimented with multiple swing values per instrument, but it was pretty much a mess. A single value for everything works better. I also tend to perform the parts and leave them unquantized, giving them both a natural swing value and some tasteful "inaccuracy."
It took me a long time to realize what swing even was. I had always though of it as a triplet feel, but it's really the potential space between a triplet feel (33%) and "straight 8" (0%), or the shuffle (19 beat) equivalent. Swing values are what makes boombap and reggae so good, especially when you remove the first beat from the phrase on occasion.
Hope that wasn't too much info, just some food for thought.
Hey, we live in the information age, no such thing as too much info..lol
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Hit me up via email, and I can send you the beat.
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quality man just quality :)
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Michael
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Not a complaint, just a thought, keep it up.
I don't know if I'm really hearing a difference..or I just believe I do..I know 27% is very a subtle change, but thx for the tip.
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Nice work, keep it up.
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Michael
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Hip Hop is truly alive!& well the way you drop it. Floored! by the BEAUTY! of this. You are simply one of a kind. This is PURE GOLD! Salute!
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My kinda pace! Was that chimes at that pause? Creative man 2.34 change in the kik was brilliant
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The bass is a mix of live and synth bass,also used a shaved off 808 for some top..
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hats off, Danke
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How do you get the bass and keys to work so well with them being almost in same freq ? as you have noticed on my last track i could not get bass to stand out i ended it up with a beez hive sound lol
Not looking at the session now, but rolling off other instruments from your low end freq's and eq the mids for clarity could help with that, and adding some distortion to that bass to make it cut thru the mix.Sidechaining with compression and distortion and eq chain.
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