Hey, my favourite part of this track is when it gets into full swing around the 1:20 mark. Are you planning to expand on this track? If so, I'd definitely work more with that section as it's a shame it only lasts about 30 seconds. So I guess my only complaint with it is I think the track should be longer :) Maybe a bit more emphasis on the bass as well, but overall really good work, well done!
This track has a goth club thing going on. If it were something I was working on I'd work it into a darkwave techno kind of thing. I do a lot of dark music, so naturally that's what I would do. If that's not your shtick you could push it into the cinematic realm by making it more dramatic & bombastic. Something like death star music from star wars. This track's got a lot of potential, so you're going the right direction.
Thanks CbC I appreciate that feedback and the listen! I think those are two great suggestions and I will definitely be playing around with those ideas! Cheers! -B
I liked this one its sets an ominous tone and keeps it right through i would love to hear a bassy mean voice rip it up with added meanness that would require giving the mean dude space to operate in. Nice one for sure. Robbie.
nice intro i really liked that vocal "are you here to kill me" where do you get that from i always find it hard to get good vocs like that. I also liked the outro very much with the bells reminded me of the Music Pocket Watch From the film FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNFaZjNSvig from 0.32 the synth take over and dominates the track i find i too often overdo my tracks its hard to keep mine stripped down. ive been away from looperman too long running out of inspiration i think its better to do what pleases me and not be running in the pack. Best regard Robbie.
Thanks! It hadn't even occurred to me how similar those sounded until you pointed it out! I love that movie and know that scene well, so that's great that it made you think of that. Thanks for the feedback and listen Robbie! -B
My G My G you def nailed that cinematic dark feel homie, I gotta say Bro I'm lovin your style quite a bit fam I'm glad you shared this. You are very creative and I love hearing all the different types of music on here its so inspirational for me man helps me get out of this creative music slump! I absolutely love the atmosphere in this track and how it builds up and then resolves man I think it on point homie love it - I'm a fan Fo Sho!
Ahh Hughey, Thanks again for the listen man! I agree with you folks on here are great and it's always nice to hear something different to spark some inspiration! I'm stoked you enjoyed the atmosphere and build up! Hopefully will be able to polish it up in the future I think I just needed a break from it ya know? Cheers! -B
You really captured the 80's sound with this track! Nicely done! I actually agree with Lek that it would be a great track for vocals.
I have a couple of suggestions if you were to do any further work on it. Several members have suggested it needs a bit more embellishment/variation. You've got a good ear for melody, so one suggestion I have is to repeat the melody line a maximum of 8 bars, not more in any section of the song. That's basically two phrases of the melody. Since you seem to have a good handle of generating memorable melody lines, disciplining yourself to compose more variation should be do-able.
It's a thing I struggle with myself. You get attached to a melody and just like to hear it over and over again. But, without at least additional elements every couple of bars, that tends to wear thin. You also seem to have a good sense of adding additional elements/counterpoint parts, so getting more variation that way works as well.
I found the part starting at 1:03 where the high arpeggiated synth takes over the lead to have a drop in energy, compared with the part with the lower pitched lead melody synth which preceded it.
Generally, a track should build in intensity and excitement. You definitely can have short parts which drop the energy level down, and you do have that later on, but this is an extended section which I felt needed more.
If there was a vocal, the backing of this section would be OK, except that the high pitched synth part might conflict with the vocal. I'd be looking for a different synth patch for the arpeggiated line and probably would shorten this section by at least four bars.
All that said, I definitely really liked the track. One "test" I have for the instrumental tracks I hear on Looperman is whether a vocal melody line starts forming in my head as I listen. When that happens I find that I invariably like the track, regardless of whether it's perfect or actually ready for vocals. It happened with this track so, at least for me, you've got something very good here. :)
Wowzer, Eric! I thank you for the thorough and complete analysis. Earnestly! I am fairly new to all things music production, so this is such a valued response. As I am still learning things, or better understanding things music wise I realize the less I actually know about it all! I'm still trying to building my confidence in my decisions I make musically, but often I feel limited and whether it be a lack of knowledge or pure ignorance I often feel I get stuck or reach a point where I don't know where to go. So again, you as well as others have given me much to look forward to as I hopefully improve. I will certainly be attempting a handful of the suggestions yourself and those below have made and see if I can't give this little lady the sparkle and attention she needs and deserves. So keep your eyes and ears peeled for a V2 in the future! I so greatly appreciate the feedback and encouragement and more-over taking the time to listen! Nearly everyone I've encountered on this site is super helpful, knowledgeable, and empathetic to the dream and craft. I'm a very grateful to be a part of the looperman(person) community! -B
man sounds so good, you are definitely a master of your craft! sounds radio ready to me the mix is on point and those synths sound lush - Perfect bro just perfect!!!!
Hughey! Thank you I'm honored that you took a listen! Such high praise coming from a mix master himself! Really admire your style, so I appreciate your feedback here! Keeps me inspired man! Thanks! -B
Ok, I was there. In the 80s when all this was happening live. If you had put this in a mix with other tracks that were actually produced back then, without telling me, I most likely wouldn't have questioned it being there. The reverb on the kicks and snare, the "kick/snare/kick/kick/kick/snare" beat, the brassy synths, the bouncy bassline. It's got it all. I think as far as the mix goes, there may be just a little too much clarity in the top end. I seem to remember it being just a little muddier. But, man...not by much. I think the "missing element" that every one seems to be searching for, (aside from Robert Smith style vocals)is guitars. I know it's 80s synth style, but considering we were just coming out of the "classic rock" guitar driven decade, they were still a prominent feature across the board. Even in the then infant genre of rap. There needs to be some reverb drenched, low gain guitars in the backing rhythm section. I wonder if the other artist that Lek can't put his finger on is Gary Numan. It kind of reminds me of him. Maybe just a touch of super early "With Sympathy" era Ministry. Or even some Eurythmics. Damn, there were so many good ones!
Valve, thank you for your review and feedback! I think some reverbed LA studio sounding guitar might be a really fun thing to try out on this and I'll definitely be experimenting! In my head I heard a saxophone solo somewhere so that might be something I investigate next too! Such kind words, It really motivates me to keep at it! I love the sounds that came out of the 80's and 90's and they constantly inspire my music. I hadn't heard of Gary Numan I am ashamed to say or the Eurythmics but I thank you for introducing me as now I have some new tunes to listen to and learn from!
Hi, this reminds me of very early Depeche Mode (Vince Clarke era), the bassline slightly later - 1982ish. I don't know if you intend for this to be a standalone track or you want vocals. It needs vocals really I think or if not, some more variation in the track. It reminds me of another early 80's band as well but can't put my finger on who. Nice feel though throughout - well done.
Lek, thank you for your feedback, I always envisioned this as a purely instrumental track personally, but I could see someone with more talent than my self adding vocals to this. I am planning on revisiting this as I hopefully improve and seeing where I can add some new touches to it! Again thank you for the feedback and kind words! Inspires me to keep working and making music! Cheers! -B
Yep, nice synths as most people are saying! Mix sounds fine to me, good variation in the structure, maybe a little embellishment here and there to keep us on our toes. Enjoyed the listen!
Thanks Diskonnect! I appreciate the listen and feed back, I think you're right as are some of the others, it needs something else somewhere to give it a little pop and flair. I'm hoping when I learn a little bit more about productions and have some more tools in my belt I can revisit this and give it what it needs. Thanks again! Cheers! -B
Hey Sunny! Thanks, that's super kind of you to say! The synths are all software based and all free to use. All I've done is tweeked and appregiated some of the presets. I used Surge, and the PG-8X. Hope that helps, and thanks again for the listen!
Hey, thanks! Yes you can absolutely use this in a yt video. If you remember, come back and post a link here, would love to see what you made! Cheers! -B
Commented on Darkwave Experiment pt 2 by BadNode
Nice work on the track.
Commented on Darkwave Experiment pt 2 by BadNode
Hey, my favourite part of this track is when it gets into full swing around the 1:20 mark. Are you planning to expand on this track? If so, I'd definitely work more with that section as it's a shame it only lasts about 30 seconds. So I guess my only complaint with it is I think the track should be longer :) Maybe a bit more emphasis on the bass as well, but overall really good work, well done!
Commented on Darkwave Experiment pt 2 by BadNode
This is quite exciting! Has a very good sound to it. You put a lot of effort into it. I can almost picture this in a movie. Well done!
Commented on Darkwave Experiment pt 2 by BadNode
Definitely worth finishing this track when the vibe is right! There are some real good sounds here.
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
Hey Badnode, I used this music in an opinion piece I gave on TOR vs VPN browsing.
I give links to your page in the description. Your music rocks man!!
Commented on Darkwave Experiment pt 2 by BadNode
This track has a goth club thing going on. If it were something I was working on I'd work it into a darkwave techno kind of thing. I do a lot of dark music, so naturally that's what I would do. If that's not your shtick you could push it into the cinematic realm by making it more dramatic & bombastic. Something like death star music from star wars. This track's got a lot of potential, so you're going the right direction.
Commented on Synthwave-Darkwave 80s sound by BadNode
I liked this one its sets an ominous tone and keeps it right through i would love to hear a bassy mean voice rip it up with added meanness that would require giving the mean dude space to operate in. Nice one for sure. Robbie.
Commented on Darkwave Experiment pt 2 by BadNode
nice intro i really liked that vocal "are you here to kill me" where do you get that from i always find it hard to get good vocs like that. I also liked the outro very much with the bells reminded me of the Music Pocket Watch From the film FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNFaZjNSvig from 0.32 the synth take over and dominates the track i find i too often overdo my tracks its hard to keep mine stripped down. ive been away from looperman too long running out of inspiration i think its better to do what pleases me and not be running in the pack. Best regard Robbie.
Commented on Darkwave Experiment pt 2 by BadNode
My G My G you def nailed that cinematic dark feel homie, I gotta say Bro I'm lovin your style quite a bit fam I'm glad you shared this. You are very creative and I love hearing all the different types of music on here its so inspirational for me man helps me get out of this creative music slump! I absolutely love the atmosphere in this track and how it builds up and then resolves man I think it on point homie love it - I'm a fan Fo Sho!
Commented on Darkwave Experiment pt 2 by BadNode
you hooked me with opening lyric...great job...i think i would agree with random man...some sub stuff....
Commented on Darkwave Experiment pt 2 by BadNode
Love a good cyber/vaporwave track! Nice job man. I would recommend, of course a little bit more sub bass but overall love the work man!!
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
You really captured the 80's sound with this track! Nicely done! I actually agree with Lek that it would be a great track for vocals.
I have a couple of suggestions if you were to do any further work on it. Several members have suggested it needs a bit more embellishment/variation. You've got a good ear for melody, so one suggestion I have is to repeat the melody line a maximum of 8 bars, not more in any section of the song. That's basically two phrases of the melody. Since you seem to have a good handle of generating memorable melody lines, disciplining yourself to compose more variation should be do-able.
It's a thing I struggle with myself. You get attached to a melody and just like to hear it over and over again. But, without at least additional elements every couple of bars, that tends to wear thin. You also seem to have a good sense of adding additional elements/counterpoint parts, so getting more variation that way works as well.
I found the part starting at 1:03 where the high arpeggiated synth takes over the lead to have a drop in energy, compared with the part with the lower pitched lead melody synth which preceded it.
Generally, a track should build in intensity and excitement. You definitely can have short parts which drop the energy level down, and you do have that later on, but this is an extended section which I felt needed more.
If there was a vocal, the backing of this section would be OK, except that the high pitched synth part might conflict with the vocal. I'd be looking for a different synth patch for the arpeggiated line and probably would shorten this section by at least four bars.
All that said, I definitely really liked the track. One "test" I have for the instrumental tracks I hear on Looperman is whether a vocal melody line starts forming in my head as I listen. When that happens I find that I invariably like the track, regardless of whether it's perfect or actually ready for vocals. It happened with this track so, at least for me, you've got something very good here. :)
Eric
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
man sounds so good, you are definitely a master of your craft! sounds radio ready to me the mix is on point and those synths sound lush - Perfect bro just perfect!!!!
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
Definitely has an authentic 80's synth feel too it. Everything from the kick, snare, pads. Has that late night car cruising vibe, Nice work here!
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
this brought me back...thks for the time travelling my friend..
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
Ok, I was there. In the 80s when all this was happening live. If you had put this in a mix with other tracks that were actually produced back then, without telling me, I most likely wouldn't have questioned it being there. The reverb on the kicks and snare, the "kick/snare/kick/kick/kick/snare" beat, the brassy synths, the bouncy bassline. It's got it all. I think as far as the mix goes, there may be just a little too much clarity in the top end. I seem to remember it being just a little muddier. But, man...not by much.
I think the "missing element" that every one seems to be searching for, (aside from Robert Smith style vocals)is guitars. I know it's 80s synth style, but considering we were just coming out of the "classic rock" guitar driven decade, they were still a prominent feature across the board. Even in the then infant genre of rap. There needs to be some reverb drenched, low gain guitars in the backing rhythm section.
I wonder if the other artist that Lek can't put his finger on is Gary Numan. It kind of reminds me of him. Maybe just a touch of super early "With Sympathy" era Ministry. Or even some Eurythmics. Damn, there were so many good ones!
Excellent work! Keep it up!
Take care.
V.
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
Hi, this reminds me of very early Depeche Mode (Vince Clarke era), the bassline slightly later - 1982ish. I don't know if you intend for this to be a standalone track or you want vocals. It needs vocals really I think or if not, some more variation in the track. It reminds me of another early 80's band as well but can't put my finger on who. Nice feel though throughout - well done.
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
Yep, nice synths as most people are saying! Mix sounds fine to me, good variation in the structure, maybe a little embellishment here and there to keep us on our toes. Enjoyed the listen!
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
Nice building tension in the intro. Definitely has an 80's era British pop wave feel to it. Great job man.
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
Keep going and stay "On" with your music.
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
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Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
Synths are godly to me so this sounds crazy fire. Did you use any synth hardware?
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
So good. can i use this in a youtube video?
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
The 80's music is the best years!
Commented on Another 80s Wave by BadNode
Adore Amor for title. Think music was at its best time during the 80s I love all 80s music good job