Description : so me and Aaron finally collabed, as i do with all producers on close collabs, i do the vocal and processing then its up to the producer, i give them carte blanche, i don't tell them their job, they do as they wish edit drop lyrics etc
my first attempt at trap, the vocal layout was down to me, and all the bells and whistles Pnnywse, im extremely proud to promote this and show whats possible when you make good links here on the loop, we have an abundance of talent, thanks for your hard work Bro
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hey Aaron (valvedriver), I wanted to respond, as well. I had the dry vocal mix, and I couldve done what i normally do with vocals, but i didnt want to lose Dime's signature and his echo effect, and Id have felt like I was stepping on his toes and what he wanted to do. with the fx as powerful as they are, i found that any louder and they drowned out some of the nuances of the beat, and each other in some cases. In the future, Before mixing I would approximate what he was going for, and then send it over for his thoughts. This was our first true collab and i took what i felt was the best overall approach. Its more on me than on him. I will say that not many first time collabs go this quickly and smoothly, and that working relationship can spawn some great things. Thanks for supporting Dime, as well as myself, man. - The other Aaron lol
just about to retire had a friend over a late one, nice message bro, we are going better have no worries my overlays were textuted as you know mate, never ever feel like you would step on my toes, you do you like i do me, it works bro, a true story my track with Oli my layout was alot different,, first listen i was this isn't right, but what a mistake that was, i assume my layout is best, not necessarily, i make mistakes like all, but after a day of listening to Oli's layout my opinion changed i couldn't have it my way it sounded good dont get me wrong but Oli captured my heart far better with his layout he structured my verse differently, thats why i give carte blanche the producer is the boss, even if its my idea :) all the comments are positive too Aaron even the couple critiques which is the feedback we want most, are not really critique they highlight positives too, and thought it was a good collab moving forward, bigger and better bro that's the name of the game
What's goin' on, Dime? All is well I hope.
Here's my take on the track. First, I like how dark it is. But is that any surprise? I mean...I'm Valvedriver. Dark is what I do.
As a few people before me mentioned, the vocals are a little low in the mix. I like the delay on the vocals, but I think the feedback/mix levels could have been a little lower. That way it gives the initial vocal track a nice clarity, but not losing the "echo" effect. Think of it as a muted bell. When you smack the bell, the attack is super prominent, and even though you can still here the ring afterwards, it's quieted and fades out fast. The benefit of this is still having the delay effect, but not overcrowding the next few words. They come out much clearer.
Also, in doing so, you could bring the vocal volume levels up so they sit closer to the front of the mix without the echo laying over the top of everything, which ultimately would clutter it up.
thanks for the feedback V, i will take that forward for sure, i was responsible for the vocal and although i love it, i respect other peoples views too, my first attempt at a trap vocal, some will love it others wont which is fine too, but advice that is passed on should always be considered, they only want the best for your work. it was great to collab with Aaron. its good to see you around too, you know all about darkness bro, you taught Darth Vader im sure lol, hope your good mate thanks for the check and comment
I haven't got any clue what you are talking about in that soundscape. I am just a stupid non native English talker. Probably about a Mars-bar having an affair with a power steering pump in a underground bar or so. However the whole ambience of tickered beats with flying sounds fits very well. Cheers, Oli
thanks for the listen Oli, ask Kay to give you the translation, by all accounts my English was not standard text, hence why no text, my first attempt at trap too, i was happy with what we come up with, but that Mars bar (ice-cream one please) and power steering affair is one i need to know far more about, i get away with murder, i know, but even my friends here would think i had lost the plot and had a mental breakdown lol, but i bet i could come up with something :)
baby wheel i here you turning
my cream you keep squirting
the barman keeps serving
the quench we both thirsting ...... for gods sake dime, stop it, pleasae stop it, what f@cking planet are you living on, Mars, lol
It really makes me happy to revisit these comments and see all the positive things everyone has said. It's a Great song and, as Dime said, we're really proud of it.
that's right bro, the comments are positive and we have every right to be proud, i see you got new up, I'll take a look, ive got 2 new ones finished so will be changing up again soon, but I'm also looking to do more with you too.
wow Kay thanks, i just listened to all 5, i will utilise these in tracks at some stage adding fx delay reverb, ive got vocal synth II so could run them through that also, its just gives me options to edit, having a female vocal on your work is always a positive for me and you so much sound like a West Bromwich girl in no 5, i assume your parents are both from them sides. thank you for this it's really appreciated KayOS on board :))
bro you dont realise what your last three words mean its f@cking scary lol, no its haunting, wow, our next track has got
repping Birmingham UK
London to the States
Bronx to LA
every place
repping Birmingham UK
its got tight lines a fire hook, and a great Chorus
your so on my wave length bro, i can't wait to bring this, its a beauty :))
Rash&dime had to get our two cities in
Wow Paul...this is the best one!!
The beat is so cool but your voice is great here!!!
How you sound a little dangerous....noway!! Im without words!!
10 starsssss for beat and vocal.
Im so proud on you!!!!
hi Rita hope your well, i really enjoyed doing this with Aaron, he's such a good trap artist and producer, he got me sounding sinister here, i thought he done a great job, its difficult to write a trap vocal, and get on the dark side but i was more than happy with what we achieved here. i got some great tracks to come too, next one rap, possibly my best flow, and a big rock track with Danke keep listening Mrs
Hey Dime Ur lyrics fit the music v well - love 'where you bin' bit. Adding the Darth Vader voice interestng touch, adds darkness. Keep on shinin with your Dimin! KayOS of VintageNights
thanks Kay, it was super cool to work with Aaron, i'll be checking your fresh later, it was a close collab, like with Oli, great results having stems,
and that is a beauty you come up with there, i usually take a comment from a colleague and bring it to a production a couple months later when its forgotten, its a smile and a reminder of their words i value, but if you get a chance you could do it for me ''keep on shinnin with your dimmin'' i could so play off that,
keep on rhyming,
keep on climbing,
keep on stylin,
Kayos on board,
we keep on shinin,
TCO just keeps providin,
i want female hooks myself not loops, i avoid using them and have done for years now, nothing wrong with it, i just don't now. i know enough females here to ask them :)) maybe ?
thanks Sashkat, the easiest way to unite is give feedback, be critical too, just give substance as to why you think different, bonds grow, if you think you have something that will work for another artist, reach out to them through their profile contact details, once you gain their respect you'll gain their private mail too, that makes things easier. you have not long joined so welcome bro, enjoy it and embrace it and if you get a comment reply, thank your listeners for their time, manners cost nothing, it also encourages others to do the same, both me and Aaron thankyou, he's a trap producer from USA im an all round amateur from the UK sing/rap play keys and drums and produce, you learn and enjoy it far more joining in
Great work guys the track is great and your voice is really well integrated and suits perfectly (imho). Im good with the fx too, in my view they fit well and work soften and glue the the mix / the vocal with other elements in the track.
thanks Ian, i really liked what Aaron did, he's excellent and trap is his speciality, i think he done a great job and i enjoyed working with him he's such a nice lad, he put in the work too. the only thing i asked him to do was include his tag, everything else was up to him, i was more than happy, thanks for the feedback its appreciated as always mate
excuse me Mr, but trying to impersonate one of my besties, is no way to curry favour with me, be off with you scoundrel, before i have you teathered and whipped for your sleigth of hand
Trap is not necessarily my favorite type of music, so I can't say much about the genre itself. I can only describe how it affects me: a bit dark, mysterious, dramatic, with powerful bass. In this environment, Paul's voice gets a bit lost in my opinion. I find the play with the echo on the voice interesting and it also fits Paul's vocal style, but it seems a bit contrary to Aaron's music. In my opinion, less would have been more here. To my ears, it creates a kind of competition with the music, which is a shame.
I can't really follow the text either. Paul, could you send me the text when you get a chance? In my opinion, the whole thing could have been better and more exciting if they had worked less with the echo on the voice and given the music more freedom with instrumental, vocal-free passages. In other words, the construct had been divided up a bit differently. But that's just my opinion on a genre that I'm not very familiar with.
hi Manuela, its not your cup of tea, i value your opinion as always, and your honesty, thats the whole idea, i wasn't expecting you to be enamoured :) its dark and menacing repetitive its trap scares the life out of ya, every thing your not, but you know me and my service to the community, i wanted to work with Aaron too, some will love it and others will see it from yourside too, like the comments already differing opinions, i love what he's done, we aint all gonna like what we all bring everytime, but as friends you should respect and value their opinion as both me and Aaron will do, we are all friends too, we only want the best for each other, sometimes you got just say,its not for me, and move on with a smile :))) your feed back is important to your friends as it is to anyone you comment Manuela, thats why we fought to keep hold of you and your sister, this is who we want and what we want :)
cheers Dustin, we appreciate your listen, i got one of yours to bro, house of mirrors, atnt done anything yet tho, keep bring your craft, thanks for the props
done ourselves justice here Aaron, but the beans are served by the producer YOU, there was no shady without Dre, more will come im sure, you done me real proud fam, its got to be a certain vocal trap, its not easy to accommodate even tho it's a sub genre of hip-hop and rap, but i got there, and its extra dark and menacing alright, your work is fire, im proud your proud too bro, it means we both have the same drive and hunger, you were a pleasure to work with, we both know now what to expect from each other in future, this result shows that it works, thankyou.
cheers Robin, we've been tryin' to collab ages, when its a file swap collab the results are better, Aaron had all the dry vocal stems and the wet stems and a guide track to give him my ideas, which he stuck with layout wise but puts all the shine on because he's a great trap artist, none better here im my opinion. it is the way to go, let the best engineers do their job, ive found a new vst to add bigness to my tracks now and a new vocal chain, next 2 are both big sound, my production,
our next collab i might send you the vocal stems if you wanna try produce me, i dont mind what you do, i think i'm shit, but when someone else produces me im like, there's your front man right there dimestop in his purple pork pie hat, then i think (do farts come in lumps bro) i shit myself in front of 3 mates in my lounge lol :))
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Here's my take on the track. First, I like how dark it is. But is that any surprise? I mean...I'm Valvedriver. Dark is what I do.
As a few people before me mentioned, the vocals are a little low in the mix. I like the delay on the vocals, but I think the feedback/mix levels could have been a little lower. That way it gives the initial vocal track a nice clarity, but not losing the "echo" effect. Think of it as a muted bell. When you smack the bell, the attack is super prominent, and even though you can still here the ring afterwards, it's quieted and fades out fast. The benefit of this is still having the delay effect, but not overcrowding the next few words. They come out much clearer.
Also, in doing so, you could bring the vocal volume levels up so they sit closer to the front of the mix without the echo laying over the top of everything, which ultimately would clutter it up.
Other than that, good collab!
Take care.
V.
baby wheel i here you turning
my cream you keep squirting
the barman keeps serving
the quench we both thirsting ...... for gods sake dime, stop it, pleasae stop it, what f@cking planet are you living on, Mars, lol
repping Birmingham UK
London to the States
Bronx to LA
every place
repping Birmingham UK
its got tight lines a fire hook, and a great Chorus
your so on my wave length bro, i can't wait to bring this, its a beauty :))
Rash&dime had to get our two cities in
The beat is so cool but your voice is great here!!!
How you sound a little dangerous....noway!! Im without words!!
10 starsssss for beat and vocal.
Im so proud on you!!!!
Manuela
and that is a beauty you come up with there, i usually take a comment from a colleague and bring it to a production a couple months later when its forgotten, its a smile and a reminder of their words i value, but if you get a chance you could do it for me ''keep on shinnin with your dimmin'' i could so play off that,
keep on rhyming,
keep on climbing,
keep on stylin,
Kayos on board,
we keep on shinin,
TCO just keeps providin,
i want female hooks myself not loops, i avoid using them and have done for years now, nothing wrong with it, i just don't now. i know enough females here to ask them :)) maybe ?
Best wishes
Manuela
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I can't really follow the text either. Paul, could you send me the text when you get a chance? In my opinion, the whole thing could have been better and more exciting if they had worked less with the echo on the voice and given the music more freedom with instrumental, vocal-free passages. In other words, the construct had been divided up a bit differently. But that's just my opinion on a genre that I'm not very familiar with.
A lovely job nonetheless!
Manuell
our next collab i might send you the vocal stems if you wanna try produce me, i dont mind what you do, i think i'm shit, but when someone else produces me im like, there's your front man right there dimestop in his purple pork pie hat, then i think (do farts come in lumps bro) i shit myself in front of 3 mates in my lounge lol :))