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    Cybertooth : Tue 6th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    right, since intrest in the genre seems to be picking up (from what ive heard) on looperman, heres our meeting place for it.

    first of all, im wondering where the heck this genre originated from. i believe it is industrial and electro rooted, but i could be wrong.

    second of all, what about this genre appeals to you? it doesnt exactly have pleasent sounds. i like it because its organized chaos.

    third of all, if you want to share any tips or tricks, heres a good place to do so

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    alividlife : Tue 6th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    Good idea Cybertooth!

    I wonder at times too...
    I always just assume it started gaining huge popularity with Richard D. James (aka aphex twin).
    But who knows?
    Maybe someone will post up a link or have more in-depth knowledge on it's origins and history... ALL I know is glitch is a very time consuming process and I LOVE IT lol..

    I will say, I was first introduced to "glitch" by my own means.
    I remember being a young kid and having a badly scratched Metallica CD (I think it was the black album) and I had it in one of those old walkman CD players.
    Well the staticco guitar riffs (duhn duhn duhn duhn) started skipping along with the beat, and viola, there was my first glitch moment.
    I was really fascinated and excited with that first moment of a CD skipping. It immediately caught my attention and I was just fixated, replaying that one part over and over.

    Then I remember later on just hearing the CPU being overloaded and hearing that glitch effect again. I think I was playing Sim City 2000 at the time lol..

    It wasn't till like '96 when I first heard "Come To Daddy" by Aphex Twin, that I was completely hooked on glitch.
    Then Autechre. Just mind blowing stuff.
    etc. etc.

    I also think.. and this is just me thinking out loud.. that maybe it has something to do with the hip-hop crowd as well.. DJ's scratching the turntable (essentially the analog form of glitch).. slowing things down and up.. etc.

    but also there's the stuff that Spinkurl does
    That kinda thing has been done for years. I have an old book on how to do that kinda stuff.. taking apart Teddy Ruxton dolls and turning it into a drum machine lol.
    Circuit bent stuff.
    Who here remembers taking one of those spin wheel toys and making the voice go "The The th th the cow gos mo mooo moooo mooo"?? lol

    There's some kinda ... deeper level (at least to me) with glitch.
    It's not only the creative process of making music, but also making that music something else. Almost NOT music, but still pertaining to the flow of the song.

    I love glitch.
    I hear it more and more in popular music in America too.
    Most noticeably Lady Gaga (i know i know :\ )

    But also Atari Teenage Riot throwing on bit depth crunching. That later caught on with other acts too.

    I hear that ... bands like Autechre, they use something like VERY complex MIDI on and off coding to do their work.. some kinda outdated program, and a lot of hardware stuff.
    As far as Aphex Twin and Squarepusher, I think I have read they actually coded their own software, and also built their own equipment.
    Just what I have heard. No idea if that's true.
    (I have also heard they use Reason and Logic... who knows?)

    But anyhow.. I think it will be very interesting if this thread catches on, and see if there isn't a wider breadth of knowledge to be found.

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    Cybertooth : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    not sure about the software, but i know for sure aphex twin builds his own hardware. i first heard glitch from autechre, i started with their early works which was more electroish. later i moved to their more experimental works and loved it even more. found aphex twin and squarepusher shortly afterwards.

    according to wikipedia, aphex twin and autechre were the ones who got the genre really going, but i think even art of noise had some aspects of glitch

    i hope this picks up

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    Spivkurl : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    I really have no idea where this genre gets it's roots from, other than the artists already mentioned. I'm only a recent glitch enthusiast. I might also sight Nine Inch Nails as being a pioneer in this genre... especially their EP "Fixed". If you hear this, you can't deny it's mostly glitch.

    Thanks Alividlife for mentioning me in this thread! Circuit bending is a great way to create new and unique glitch sounds. I highly recommend any glitch lover to look into circuit bending, and to listen closely to the sounds created this way.

    I like glitch because I love the unpredictable nature of the music. I love noise too, and glitches and noise go hand in hand.

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    alividlife : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    Yes agreed guys...
    It's a reminder of something like anti-art, that becomes art in itself huh?

    Where pop music is like contemporary art
    ambient is like impressionistic
    and glitch is like pointilism or abstract... but also kinda anti-listener.

    I guess we could just start by going thru the motions on what we know and keeping the idea together?

    As far as circuit bent stuff (and no prob Spivkurl!)

    This is really an interresting way of making music. Circuit bent stuff.. It's definitely the analog form of glitch in a no-nonsense way...

    Some of the more common and useful VST's for the idea that glitch is are:
    (I particularly like the standalone versions of the major vst. Altho Glitch is just a phenomenal peice of coding.. I cannot BELIEVE this guy gives it for free.)
    and then supatrigga
    (this is like glitch on steriods and torn apart, really quite difficult to understand at times, but it does what it says it does-- I really recommend ALL of smartelectronics VST's.)

    ONE that is outside the frame of reference of "glitch" that I REALLY recommend for synthesis (according to SEINsystem heh) and mastering or just sound design is the scope one from the same guy that made supatrigga
    If you drop two of these things on your master track and set one to left and right, you basically have a fully functional view of what your waveform is going to look like!

    So..humn... Sampling techniques?
    I have JUST started getting into re-sampling (especially from the more recent issues of CM and help from local legend SEINsystem)
    Perhaps I will take a look at his advice and some stuff I have done with samplers.
    (I am no master either, I just want to get better)

    I know that in Ableton, to make glitch, CTRL+E, is your BEST friend.
    I wish ableton just made a slicer tool, but then again.. I guess it doesn't matter.

    Anyways... I hope to learn a thing or two from here!

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    Alen9R : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    Once again Cybertooth great idea for glitch logbook

    About the roots and pioneers of the genre glitch:

    In the early 1990s, a band called Oval was formed in Germany. All three of the original members of Oval, Markus Popp, Frank Metzger, and Sebastial Oschatz, are viewed as pioneers of glitch music. Oval eschewed the use of synthesizers that were popular in electronic music during the 1990s, and instead damaged CDs by writing on them with pens, using the mangled sounds this produced as the bedrock of their music


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    Cybertooth : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    oval was listed in the notable glitch artists from wiki, but now that ive got a recomendation, i have to check it out.

    ive noticed from the comments on youtube glitch songs (especially autechre), is that they arent "thats the s***", they make comments that are actually pretty intelligent. i guess it kind of appeals to those one in a million abstract people and deep thinkers. not to say that theyre the only ones either

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    Alen9R : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    It is interesting how quickly the glitch genre spread from Europe to America and then to Asia!Although we know how strong was the American music scene 90s!

    Here's something else about the roots and pioneers( many producers)

    Glitch Music and Digital Minimalism

    Come To Daddy by Aphex Twin is my first glitch song as well,but I heard that song in 2003, lol!

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    n0mad23 : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    Sorry, don't have anything to contribute here - yet - but really wanted to give a nod to The Tooth for starting this logbook.

    We need these kinds of threads!

    Nice, very nice.

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    alividlife : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    Yeah totally awesome.. I mean I am a metal head.. and at the time I was doing some gigs with this band, and getting into techno.. and I kept thinking to myself.. with DnB and the covetted Roland TB-303 and stuff.. (which was developed for hair metal in the eighties, but was used by all these kids in the UK)
    I said to myself, "Man, glitch and metal would be perrrrfect for each other!"
    low and behold there's aphex twin stealing MY idea! lol
    (not really- he is exceptionally talented and crazy)

    I personally would love to see more crossovers of Dubstep Metal, Glitch Metal, DnB Metal... Something I dream about a lot. And pathetically try and create lol.

    I will need to check out the recommendations here..
    I don't pertain to justify classifications, and in the past I have been adamant about "dogmatic stylism in generes" cause I see music as jsut "one" thing. Sound is sound to me...
    But glitch is a very interesting technique.

    I need to check out Oval.. the idea of scratching a CD just to get the sound is brilliant lol.

    I wonder if we should get some techniques up on here as well?
    It seems to be a real free-form thing, and I do agree.. people that listen to glitch/idm, most definitely have to be an odd bunch, and whether they have higher IQ's is debateable, but the comments on glitchy and IDM songs are always well thought out.
    As Cybertooth mentioned.
    The production of glitch takes a loong time.. unless of course you just throw a VST on there and call it good.

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    n0mad23 : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    While not exactly a glitch vst, this one certainly lends itself - SuppaTrigga

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    Alen9R : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    @n0mad23 yes this is some kind of glitch effect I have that, and it good thing!

    @alividlife I agree with you, definitely need more crossovers.
    Although lately I listen more glitchop!

    About scratching a CD and making glitch check this

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    alividlife : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    Hey gimme some examples?!?
    I know of Prefuse 73 (epic epic epic- especially his work with savath and savales ahhhrghh lol)

    And then Telephone Tel Aviv is pseudo-Hip-hop RnB Glitch.. but I would love to hear more examples?

    Do we have any family members?!

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    Alen9R : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    man,Prefuse 73 is dope (The End of Biters,School of Seven Bells Epic!
    and Telephone Tel Aviv although I have not heard much from them!
    CHECK The glitch mob

    circuit bent 8bit ship toy check this technique LOL!

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    Alen9R : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago


    Here's a couple of these recommendations Glitch Hop or close

    Flying Lotus-Glitch Hop, Instrumental Hip Hop, Trip Hop

    Jimmy Edgar-Electronic Glitch Hop

    edIT-Glitch Hop

    Machine Drum-Electronic, Glitch Hop

    Hudson Mohawke-Electronic, Glitch Hop

    Dorian Concept-Glitch Hop, Electronic

    Dabrye this guy is worked with Prefuse 73,def.differently from others

    Beta Erko-Experimental Hip Hop, Glitch Hop

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    Cybertooth : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    this is a circuit bending emulation vst

    good diggin, never even heard of some of those people before

    Gescom-Glitch (not much else)


    lets get together a metal, a dubstep and a glitch producer sometime. but not many of my friends would call me odd... aside from the music i listen to

    if you want a good glitch song, it takes a long time. ive been trying glitch and dubstep hybrids for a long time, theyre really hard to get just the right balance

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    Alen9R : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    I never hear for Gescom this is the first time,nice, some good elements track have!

    I listen for years glitch,and yet I've never made a finished song,in the last few months trying to connect Dnb with Glitch,
    Not as Prodigy they use only some glitch elements i try made more craziest,with extra glitchs HeavyDnBGlitch lol!

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    simmerdown : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    'what about this genre appeals to you? it doesnt exactly have pleasent sounds.', for me it is best used as an element mixed up with other genres, just glitch standing on its own does not hold my attention very long, lol, then again , nothing really does

    another vst, Bent

    really basic, just 3 controls but it get things sounding heinous superfast

    great read so far!, i had put up a track under glitch thinking for some reason that there were not really any parameters, mainly bc i just did not know, so...this is quite educational

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    Cybertooth : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    i dont know, bent doesnt work that well for me, that or i was not that savvy on circuit bending when i first tried it. its true that there isnt that much pure glitch, and its really hard to make a good song that is pure glitch.

    so far, combinations of soothing guitars and basses(among other noises) with glitchy noises has been very sucessful

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    Cybertooth : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago


    awesome music video too here

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    BlumeChoon : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    @Cybertooth what about the side project we got going. Would that be considered Glitch or Industrial Electro or is that almost the same in comparison.

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    simmerdown : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    yes, bent works better with some sounds than others for sure, the output can be resampled much in the same way blume mentions in the other thread, might be useful for someone...

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    Cybertooth : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    i'd say more along the lines of experimental ambient electro

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    StephenPotter : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    I wish I could contribute to this thread because I'm starting to take a real interest in glitch, simply because it is an invisible genre in my school. A couple of people know about house and trance, rock and metal is alive there, dubstep is massively popular, as is heavier drum and bass, and chillout has been taught slightly by my music teacher earlier this year when looking at genres, but no-one even knows glitch exists as a genre (except perhaps the teachers).

    So I'm hooked into this. As cyber said in the last thread its about resampling, and I cant wait to make a glitch song. I'm gonna need help with it though, its a creative genre, and I'm literally stuck with things I never even knew where possible to make. I probably will have a good go at glitch, I'm really into overcomplicating my pads, and, again I'm gonna quote cyber, who said it was a good idea to reverse and resample them, and it really works well as FX.

    So... I'll keep my eye on this thread, its really caught my interest, as well as the ambient logbook which seems to buried somewhere amongst all the other forum threads.

    Ste :)

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    Cybertooth : Wed 7th Jul 2010 : 11 years ago

    ambient logbook isnt dead yet, likely never will be, im glad to see this is picking up though

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