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    n0mad23 : Wed 19th May 2010 : 11 years ago

    10 reads for every post now - seems there's an interest in this topic.

    @jahknow - your "how to" post above is going to have me experimenting for a while! Thanks!

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    n0mad23 : Wed 19th May 2010 : 11 years ago

    Adrian Sherwood and Lee "Scratch" Perry (with Ravi Shankar sample)

    "Brazilian Jungle"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKUPrrpWZb4&feature=related

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    simmerdown : Wed 19th May 2010 : 11 years ago

    Jah that is some heavy info, i had stumbled on a small bit of what youre saying, but what brings it all out is the extent you go to, multiple sends, fx banks and all, that is awesome, i hope my machine can handle it! lol, gotta try, great lesson, so generous as always

    so much good stuff up in here now i need a day to just catch up!

    but, lol,i'll add one of me faves, some stipped down, minimalist dub from another true master,

    Mad Professor-Blunt Dub

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjVWzXvjw9M&feature=related

    im hearing this in a whole new way now, lots to dissect here imo

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    jahknow : Wed 19th May 2010 : 11 years ago

    It's a mad mad mad mad mad world!

    Salook that is an awesome topic in itself. Dub moreover is the use of the mixing deck as an instrument unlike any other. LSP was famous for releasing many different versions of the same track, highlighting his mastery of the dub console. It's the evoluton of tradition and ritual. Controlling a fresh dub track is a spiritual moment. You the board and your creativity.

    Joining a band together to all play on 1 is a totally different thing. With dub you are the band and the maestro.

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    arkeyetexture : Wed 19th May 2010 : 11 years ago

    this artist is in regular rotation on my playlist. i belive you can hear his influance in some of my tracks.

    http://music.hyperreal.org/labels/axiom/

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htLWH6ITk8I

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjNZo3t7Un0

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrtgYsBHs6s

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    blackryan : Wed 19th May 2010 : 11 years ago

    I'm not sure how many of you will be familiar with the many guises of Andrew Weatherall? Check out Two Lone Swordsmen (of which he is half) Beacon Block. I suppose it is Dubtronica???

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAK6U9XuU14

    Anyway Mr Weatherall produced the Screamadelica album for Primal Scream which hardly left my cd player for about 10 years. Check out Higher Than The Sun (A Dub Symphony in Two Parts). I believe Jah Wobble on bass.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Nf4VLdOTGs

    They later on did this track with Augustus Pablo a remix of Star called Rebel Dub.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=QSG5srM_jpg&feature=related

    If you get the chance, listen to the album Morning Dove White by One Dove also produced ny Andrew Weatherall. All great stuff!

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    Salook : Wed 19th May 2010 : 11 years ago

    @blackryan, Andrew Weatherall is a quality remixer/producer and DJ, i was always sure to hit record on the Mini-disk when he was doing his essential mixes on the radio.
    i need to check out more of 'the two Lone swordmans' material! what i didn't know before i checked out his Bio is that he was also part of the trio, 'the sabres of paradise' i don't have any of there albums but do have the video to the track 'Wilmot' on Warp's 'video' DVD, and it is the most 'Dubtronica' of all the other tracks present on the collection, only makes sense now that Andrew Weatherall had a part to play.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUxZz4lVRfA

    @Jahknow, Dub moreover is the use of the mixing deck as an instrument unlike any other......yeah, turning the control centre of the studio into a creative and artistic tool was a fearless approach by the pioneers....man what would those guys have achieved if they had there hands on pro-tools, i am sure they would have turned it inside out, either way the Dub pioneers of late were pretty much way ahead of there time.

    Came across a link with some good Dub recording tips, to compliment Jahknow's previous.

    http://www.musicradar.com/tuition/tech/25-dub-tips-34138

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    simmerdown : Wed 19th May 2010 : 11 years ago

    Good stuff overload now! Salook that Wilmot is really fun stuff, faved on utube that one, almost goes into a gypsy funeral feel with those horns at the end, great! That tips page is also excellent.

    Ark your link took me to this one

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtzEbEI2lEM&feature=related

    never heard of Jah Wobble before yesterday, great!, this one is a collab with Brian Eno (ambient pioneer) so this one is a toss-up for here or the ambient logbook, like a missing link, cool vid too imo

    I was first drawn to dub by to echo effect, which i now know we call delay, at the time i was basically a wasteoid, in college and somehow i stumbled on a mad professor tape (like tapey tape) and i think there were some fungalhallucinogens envolved, but what i remember is feeling that delay. Come to find out, i wish i could find the article again, that as babies not only do we hear sounds in the womb, we hear them as echos. Just as the brain developes, certain connections are gradually lost, babies 'see' sounds, taste colors, smell touches etc, its all one until the brain begins to separate these thing up to about the 3-4 month age. So, i cant help but wonder if the enjoyment i get from a well excecuted delay dub is also just a harkening back to babyhood, the simplicity and cafefree state we all seek at times

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    Salook : Thu 20th May 2010 : 11 years ago

    Great tracks Arkeye,

    Thought i would put you guys onto 'Dubblestandart' but i am guessing most of you have heard of them.
    A Vienna based outfit skilled in the precarious balancing act between digital boombast and analogue warmth.
    They have taken Jamaican production techniques and embossed them with their own, distinctively European and electronic stamp.
    On there album 'Return to planet Dub' they reinvent old classics such as 'Chase the devil' and 'Wadada' by Dub syndicate.
    Its great that classic dubs are still being reinvented and recycled in the digital age...timeless Dub!!

    Love this track here, David Lynch toasting on a riddim adaptation of Jean-Michel Jarre’s synth requiem “Oxygen Pt. 4.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8ZQQLu_su0

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    simmerdown : Fri 21st May 2010 : 11 years ago

    no no no, not yet for this one...

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    arkeyetexture : Fri 21st May 2010 : 11 years ago

    @salook, dubblestandart is incredible. i love their latest work they did with lee scratch. they have a dubstep ep version of some of the tunes they did with scratch. awesome. they re-did some great scratch classics. blackboard jungle, i do voodoo, and the two you mentioned. two dubsteppah versions of chase the devil. good stuff.

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    jahknow : Fri 21st May 2010 : 11 years ago

    Never heard of Jah Wobble?! WHA? PiL? Man Jah has been soing it for a while! Good name dropping...

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    arkeyetexture : Fri 21st May 2010 : 11 years ago

    beatl if you ever get the chance check out the album "Radio Axiom - A Dub Trasmission" a colab between Bill Laswell and Jah Wobble.
    one of my personal favorites. Two Transient dub masters head to head. increidable. my track "theorem dubwize" was directly inspired by this album. hence the name.

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    blackryan : Fri 21st May 2010 : 11 years ago

    This post has inspired me to dig out my old dub stuff. Love these 2 Lee Perry produced tracks from Larks From The Ark.

    Jolly Brothers - Concious Man
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amJfXlY2ykU&feature=related

    Mystic Eyes - Elaine
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6YkuAhkjRk

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    simmerdown : Fri 21st May 2010 : 11 years ago

    yep, getting quite a dubbeducation right here and now...im realising that all i had been hearing, and repeating, were the'classics', so all this new is just great to hear!

    Dubblestandart is so great!, that video in particular is true art imo, gonna search up those refs you made today Ark

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    jahknow : Fri 21st May 2010 : 11 years ago

    Look here!

    Best clip I've seen in a minute. King Jammy on his very own hand built console! Veryinformative. Just watch! :D~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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    n0mad23 : Fri 21st May 2010 : 11 years ago

    It's coming out me bones! Like the 'funk' in the original context, I think some of that stuff is rubbing off.

    Mighty fine thread gang!

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    n0mad23 : Fri 21st May 2010 : 11 years ago

    My latest offering inspiring this thread, and refined as an approach because of the thread. I've been playing around with some accordion SoundFonts for weeks trying to figure out what they wanted to do.

    It's some kind of Dud Fusion to be sure.

    "Hybridity - A Subversive Dance"

    https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/67297

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    Cybertooth : Sat 22nd May 2010 : 11 years ago

    alright, kinda caught up, lotsa info here. i think this is a bit relevant point that hasnt been brought up; what are some key differences between dub and dubstep? because sometimes dubstep minus well be a subgenre of dub (and it probably was at one point).

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    jahknow : Sat 22nd May 2010 : 11 years ago

    sorry bout that. Here's the King Jammy dub video. Check out that mixing deck! :D

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR79r_h5Ito

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    simmerdown : Sat 22nd May 2010 : 11 years ago

    nice one jah, best part to me though is the narrator's explanation, classic!

    i thought i didnt really know who Bill Laswell is , but it turns out he produced one of the first tapes i ever owned. Some of you who where around in the earliest days of mtv will surely remeber this, at the time it was huge

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK0Pi4wC8Hk

    herbie hancock rockit, a jazzyfunkdub of sorts, great bassline

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    Unknown User : Sat 22nd May 2010 : 11 years ago

    Guys guys! I'm still exploring the links on the previous page of this thread and theres forty million others on the second page lol I'm gonna be here for a while I guess.....I'm learning so much I can't even translate it into words. I love this thread, I've just begun to realise that I knew absolutely NOTHING about dub,step, or any other subgenre, fk it I didn't even know how far back dub(step) went! You guys are all champs for giving this boy some much needed education! And jahknow, did I ever tell you you're a legend as well as my mentor? ;) Thanks man, thank you all!

    (fkin hell this will take forever, going through all this history and links :P)

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    Unknown User : Sat 22nd May 2010 : 11 years ago

    Also, did the beatl that was running around here just turn purple? I like it, also, because I've just been informed that dinners on the table, I shall bob my head from side to side and shuffle down the stairs coz the beatl decided to "go for that last review that changes his status" coz I know you've been avoiding it for a while! lol, everythings good in the world! :)

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    jahknow : Sat 22nd May 2010 : 11 years ago

    Best dub technique to master IMO = phaser! A well tuned phaser can turn a regular ol plunk plunk into an entire melodic line if used just so. Phasers inline with delays make for some modulations that are rather well..... unexpected.

    Try using the 3 basics (reverb, phaser and delay) in different arrangements. Try putting the phaser before the delay, then after it. Try inserting a reverb in between em. Keep tweaking the effects chain to get that sound you thought you were looking for.

    Learn the art of the overdub. I often will go back on my live track and set my controls to just ride certain elements of an effects, say delay feedback, lp, hp and time groove. By literally riding the knobs throughout the entire track I can bring the effects in and out in creative ways that simply don't happen through automation. It's really really hard to know what you might get when drawing in static automation envelopes.

    This again is what I call taking the control BACK out of the machine and putting into a real live setting, much like the original 8 track reel to reel dub studios. (only I don't burn money on expensive analog recording mediums) :D

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    jahknow : Sat 22nd May 2010 : 11 years ago

    On that tip. check out the Come mek we run Jah Know version.

    https://www.looperman.com/tracks/detail/67423

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